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The cost of renewable power

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Dear Shadow Minister,

Really mate? Do you even read these things before posting them?

What a useless puff piece you have delivered up as a counter to my actual figures, full of 'is forecast to', 'Manufactuing (sic, couldn't even get the spelling right) will be boosted by the tax cuts', 'depends on the strength of the U.S. dollar' and 'It predicts production will grow'.

Go and find something of substance so I don't have to waste my time on dross.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:19:40 AM
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SR,

I take it that you have realised the idiocy of the karatha gas link?

The "puff" piece I posted was by senior economists discussing the manufacturing sector, but I guess that it was too intellectual for you.

Here is the real data you need
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-gdp-from-manufacturing.png?s=unitedstagdpfroman&v=201907201017V20190821&d1=19190101&d2=20191231

Notice how the manufacturing in the US accelerates in 2017. It is entirely possible to have a monthly drop whilst still maintaining a growth trend. A fact most 10 year olds can fathom.

By comparison, Australia's non mining sector has shrunk.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:45:21 AM
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Shadow, you have to want to understand even simple facts.

Posters like SR, Belly, O & Paul con not under any circumstances allow themselves to understand these simple facts, or their whole lefty belief system would come tumbling down.

It is critical to socialists, global warming shysters & academics do not let facts enter their consciousness, or their all is lost. They must believe warmist crap, like CO2 is making fish left handed, or they will shrink away to nothing.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 12:40:58 PM
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Hasbeen you do you know, make me grin so much miss placed self confidence in such a small package
Just think, when it can not longer be seen as a scam climate change will have even your side of politics claiming they always knew it
Us lefty's [code for center progressives anyone not Trump like], are amused to read your stuff
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 3:29:27 PM
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miss placed,

placed, placed ? hm 'she french ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 5:03:30 PM
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Shadow,
The cost of renewable power is very low. Indeed that's a crucial factor in keeping the Whyalla steelworks open. The problem Australia has is the high cost of mains electricity and gas.

>Every power generation privatisation in Aus has led to lower prices.
That's simply untrue. It led to higher prices in SA, as well as a decline in reliability.
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SteeleRedux,
>Australia on the other hand, with your blessing, has squandered our energy
>advantage with the vast bulk of gas production headed overseas.
>At least the Rudd/Gillard government tried to pare some of it back but not your lot.

I don't recall the Rudd/Gillard government ever trying to do anything about it. What did they do, and why didn't it succeed?

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Bazz,
You seem really keen to believe that renewables still work out more expensive than fossil fuels, but you're increasingly clutching at straws to contrive that conclusion.
The cost of using wind turbines to supply 100% of our electricity needs is of course ridiculously high, but nobody's suggesting suggesting we do that. Do you even comprehend why it's totally irrelevant? It's akin to saying that a bridge from Bali to Java would be too expensive because a bridge from Bali to Australia is impractical.
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 5:59:17 PM
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