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Belly,

You said,

"Worldwide investigations have highlighted not one as bad as the Catholic Church, over centuries"

Which world wide investigations?

"not one as bad as the Catholic Church, over centuries."

So tell us which church was the second worst according to the world wide investigators?

Tell us who the investigators were?

We need some specifics.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 28 July 2019 4:41:04 PM
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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/sean-omalley-pope-francis-catholic-church-sex-abuse/582658/
I still think the thread should be put to rest
That is has ben taken a long way from its intended path
Even that I am in conversation with some one who either does not understand or does not value truth
IF any thing is to be gained in this child like debate it is this
My opponent in the verbal tennis match HIGHLIGHTS the degree of denialism in this Church
Highlights why mums and dads flogged their children, for telling the truth
Too why some police refused to believe, or act on, statements of true events
My opponent stands,as do others, firmly in the middle of the much needed road to reform the Church must have or die
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 July 2019 7:00:15 AM
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Belly,

Give a reference to your statement or just shut up.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 29 July 2019 9:48:49 AM
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http://globalnews.ca/news/4400710/scott-thompson-catholic-church/
Truth remains a refuee in your mind
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 July 2019 2:05:23 PM
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Belly,

That link is totally irrelevant to your statement,
"Worldwide investigations have highlighted not one as bad as the Catholic Church, over centuries"

Which worldwide investigations?
Who were the investigators?
Can't you tell me which was the second worst?

I'm not denying that the Catholic Church has done immense wrong and, I'll say it again, paedophiles, priest, religious or lay should be subject to the death penalty and those that do cover-ups deserve the full penalty of the law.

However, on a percentage basis, the Boy Scout Movement is probably worse.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 29 July 2019 2:38:01 PM
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To Yuyutsu.

I don't know if you're still reading this topic or not, but I thought I'd finally give a response to your last comment.

I'm glad to see you quote from Psalms. And that is true that we should boldly have confidence in God instead of fear of the world. However where it relates to the government I trust words in Romans 13, Hebrews 13, and 1 Peter 2. One thing I don't know though is whether you quote the bible because you trust it, or only quote it in pieces as a means at convincing me or other Christians.

Romans 13:1-6
Every person should obey the government in power. No government would exist if it hadn’t been established by God. The governments which exist have been put in place by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists the government opposes what God has established. Those who resist will bring punishment on themselves.

3 People who do what is right don’t have to be afraid of the government. But people who do what is wrong should be afraid of it. Would you like to live without being afraid of the government? Do what is right, and it will praise you. 4 The government is God’s servant working for your good.

But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid. The government has the right to carry out the death sentence. It is God’s servant, an avenger to execute God’s anger on anyone who does what is wrong. 5 Therefore, it is necessary for you to obey, not only because you’re afraid of God’s anger but also because of your own conscience.

6 That is also why you pay your taxes. People in the government are God’s servants while they do the work he has given them. 7 Pay everyone whatever you owe them. If you owe taxes, pay them. If you owe tolls, pay them. If you owe someone respect, respect that person. If you owe someone honor, honor that person.

(Continued)
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 5:20:00 AM
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