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Trump and the politics of the show man

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Belly,
The truth is that both you and Foxy have an obsession with Trump. The same as foxy had an obsession with Obama, just because one of his staff replied to an email from Foxy. A more 'do nothing'US President is difficult to find.

Belly , you often talk about truth and here it is staring you in the face and you cannot see it.

For myself I care little for Trump and even less about US politics. I often liken them to a three ring circus as they go about their elections. Yes our own goons in Canberra do more to effect our well being and incomes than any US politician. Just look at the mess Labor left behind when in office last and then came Turnbull who was no better.

Belly you could start to convince Labor to adopt a decent immigration policy that most Aussies could accept as a beginning to the gaining of public confidence, but I doubt you or Labor will. Just not bright enough.
Posted by HenryL, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:25:21 AM
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"Can anyone asure me China Russia, and North Korea are not using Trump as much as he is using them"

Yep, I'll give that assurance.

"Can we expect any true deal to come out of his trade negotiations"

Well he's not negotiating with NK over trade. Nor Russia. There will be a trade deal with China for no other reason than China desperately needs it. They can't have a situation where Trump holds further tariffs over their heads indefinitely. Their economy is hurting and will continue to hurt while-ever the trade deal remains unresolved. Even after that, they'll be worse off than they were before Trump decided to confront them over their flaunting of trade rules and intellectual property theft.
China isn't using Trump but they are desperately trying to work out how to live in the new post-Trump world.

Some nations, like NK and Iran are trying to just hang on through to November 2020 in the hope that Trump will lose and things can get back to normal where presidents like Clinton could be played by NK and presidents like Obama would buy off Iran with plane loads of cash. NK in particular have long used weak presidents for their own benefit. They'd make promises in return for money or goods and then blithely break the promises...over and over.

But that's not working with Trump. The second summit fell apart because NK tried it again. But Trump is making it clear they get nothing until the nukes are gone. Again, they'll try to wait him out in the hope of getting a weaker (Democrat) president, so don't expect to see anything big until 2021.

Belly its good to see that you've now dropped your silly assertions that Trump would be gone by year's end and to finally realise that he's every chance of winning in 2020. Welcome back to reality.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 10:56:18 AM
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HenryL.,

You accuse me of having an "obsession" with President
Trump?

I actually turn off the TV when he comes on. So you're
wrong there. I have nothing against the man - except
that I agree with his previous advisers. The man is
unfit for office.

As for my receiving mail from the White House?

I have many contacts
in the US having lived and worked in the country in
some amazing jobs for close to ten years.

Why does it upset you that I think Trump is unfit for
office? It's just my personal opinion. And there
are many who agree with me. You of course are entitled
to your opinion. Like Art - it's all subjective.
But it won't really make one iota of difference unless
Americans choose to agree with my opinion at the
next election.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 11:09:42 AM
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I am not only referring to me or this thread, it concerns me, truly, that not every opinion is welcome here OLO remains A GOOD IDEA
Can it continue to become a smaller and smaller pond, for only some fish , with certain views, to inhabit?
Look without bias at, but by no means only, Henry L and Individuals slurs, not calling for moderation,
Just how truly silly is it, how truly removed from the real world, to condemn me for a view great numbers, maybe even the majority have
Foxy, a woman, a good poster with thoughtful posts, is nearly slandered, and often, because she thinks differently, or is it because she is indeed female
Paul, good bloke unfortunately, a green voter, [Paul has every right to be a green, he knows it is my view they are the MORTAL enemies of Labor and working Australians]
But what of ttbn? he hates with equal bile all of our parties
Steel redux is under attack, seemingly for daring to have another opinion
Time and again new arrivals, are met at the OLO gate, and soundly abused! not just by ttbn, others we all know, trash new arrivals
IF we are not free to think differently, without being insulted let us know, tell us this place is not for all opinions
But spare me the trash talk from Henry L and indy, Trump is all I have said he is only worse,
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 1:28:03 PM
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All those feelings forced me to leave last time, in fact my self defense was curtailed as I was told the subject was closed
At least I now get to state my case, we had more women here then
We need to welcome women, not reject them
Donald Trump, here in these pages look and you will see
Any thought he may not be the man he claims, is met with efforts to silence the contributor even insult and claim mental illness drives me to? HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW!
1984 in 2019! should we not talk about him?
What will future generations , knowing by then whatever the truth may be about him think of us
Tell me to go and I go, forever and ever, but do not tell me my opinions are not inline with the usual ssupectes therefore I must never state them
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 1:35:30 PM
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"You can tell a level headed Trump supporter, the crap runs out both ears in equal volume".

"But spare me the trash talk from Henry L and indy"

Pot calling the kettle black?
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 1:42:58 PM
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