Foxy said...

Comment1-

As for Labor? There are lessons to be learned.
And I'm sure that they will sort things out.

In any case, things for most of us won't really
change all that much. At least for those of us
in the big cities.

Answer1-

At least Foxy is able to admit that the Labor party needs to sort some things out and learn some lesson. It's a start. Horses and water...

Comment2-

I watched an interview this morning with a
Salvation Army Rep. who expressed concerns
about the government's lack of action on
homelessness, the destitute, and the sick.
Apparently things are at crisis point.
And they're urging action.

Answer2- I wonder if Foxy knows any homeless people? They have interesting issues ranging from substance abuse to mental problems to claustrophobia. They tend to resist solution and seems independent of which government is resident. I've been known to shout homeless to a burger or two. I would like to see well insulated, draft proof huts with simple beds, a clothes drying rail- installed in local parks with inside locks and showers and a washing basin so that at least there would be shelter and cleanliness for these people. The cleaners could leave blankets in the rooms on cold nights. If we were serious we could even come up with ingenious heating systems. But there is a lot of opposition to this idea. You would probably as the cleaner find dead people in these huts occasionally if it was implemented. But in combination with the mobile soup kitchens it could provide the first two steps of Maslow's hierarchy for this marginalized group in a cost effective way. Currently these people sleep in doorways- huge spending on care systems that demonstrably don't care (don't meet targets) for the people but suck resources out of the system. To care for the group requires action not just feelings. This is the problem with "do gooders" that "don't do good".

My belief is that communities should take responsibility for its own sick. Doesn't mean that you give them the world but just some reasonably costed and functional amenities. Who knows we might actually save money by doing this as a community.

We do have stupid authority in Oz.

Along the southern headland of Botany Bay south from Kurnell there are a lot of caves, often only shallow, but deep enough to build a reasonable humpy. In the 60s there were a couple of dozen of these humpies along there.

I have no idea if they were built by homeless folk, or were something people uses as fishing huts on weekends. What ever it was quite interesting to walk along the foreshore, looking at the ingenuity of the builders adapting flotsam & some obviously imported material to construct these little shelters.

I don't know who was responsible, but someone with authority, council of National parks declared they had to go, & expended quite some effort destroying the things, & removing much of the building material.

These things were doing no one any harm, & added interest to a walk along that rugged area.

Thanks for your comments Hasbeen.

Foxy,

Shorten's father was an engineer and manager, his mother was a university academic and BS Bill was educated at a private school.

Working class? Bollocks

CM just a hint, it is getting hard to read all your long winded posts
Too half the reason we come hear should be to do that, read others posts
In your latest storm of words, before boredom set in, I note the following
*At least Foxy knows Labor needs , whatever*
See had you read others posts it would be clear no person on my side of the fence has not said that multiple times
Myself? about twenty times
Labor needs to change
But even more it needs to put policies that are clear in place
It went to the election with Santa's bag on its shoulder and even they didn't fully understand what they wanted