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Everything is beautiful in its own way...but who's way?

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Diver Dan had no intention of conversing with you re your claimed ownership of a thread
The one you warned me to stay on subject
Yes know the BLF, in NSW the thugs and mugs had them shut down [CFMEU] then took them over
I AM From the right of the union movement, not the Soviet Union side
Not impressed with your latest silly walks sillier talks thread,just here to stand up for the 80 percent of unionists who are not rabble
AGAIN false/fake posts harm our future rights as we see above Scomo and trump the tramp are cracking down on such
Sir no doubt exists you would buy anything that suits your unhinged biases this thread is such, be careful be very very careful
PS warning once a poster said things on this site,supported by no one,that saw the very things that keep it alive advertisers, leave
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 5 May 2019 7:48:01 PM
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I am not concerned by these alleged crimes.

There was an allegation of rape, but no actual evidence. Should someone be disqualified from the job of PM by an apparent baseless accusation? What about the job of opposition leader? I notice the article was written shortly before the PREVIOUS election in an attempt to discredit Shorten. The timing suggests it's political rather than a genuine concern about his conduct.

And the government had already thoroughly investigated Bill Shorten's conduct as a union boss in the hope of finding some dirt, but they couldn't.

That leaves adultery: not a crime in Australia. Yes, he did wrong, but it was personal rather than political and it was a long time ago. What is there to gain by holding a grudge about that?

Of greater concern is the criminal defamation suit Graham mentioned. I was under the impression that defamation was entirely a civil matter in Australia. When is it criminal, and what states does that apply to?
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 5 May 2019 7:52:42 PM
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When the boot is on the other foot ....
Posted by individual, Monday, 6 May 2019 12:00:00 AM
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Dear Foxy,

«Mr Scott Morrison has promised to crack down on social media trolling and increase punishments if the Coalition wins on 18 May.»

1. This is a respectable forum, not social media.
2. Nobody here answers the definition of "troll"¹. I can see here no menacing, harassing or offending. Graham Young would not allow any of that anyway.
3. This Morrison, isn't he a politician? Since when are we to believe politicians?
4. Penalties cannot be increased retroactively. May 18th is still in the future.
5. Coalition will not win on 18 May, so Morrison wouldn't be lying even if he promised that "All koalas will be granted Australian citizenship if the Coalition wins on 18 May".
6. Even if it did win, the small parties and independents in the Senate would not allow this to pass: there at least is a bit of democracy there, unlike the lower house where the undemocratic Australian electoral system only allows one of the two dinosaurs to win.

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¹ a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 6 May 2019 12:08:01 AM
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Withdraw nothing I have said here
Restate the thread is both filth, untrue, and uninformed trash
Highlights however three things
This government,and its supporters, will say or do anything to win, *other than run on its record*
Two no concern is given not a bit, for the lasting divisions such as this brings
Three the campaign, it purely evil, lies, sets a new low in Australian politics and warns SOME think we are idiots
See you in another thread, this one is very very thin ice
One day it will be such as this thread, that brings the roof down on freedom to comment online
And tests the legal right of its posters [link and its poster here] to post such things
Posted by Belly, Monday, 6 May 2019 5:37:33 AM
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On this thread I have seen some outrageous hypocrisy. Only a few years ago, a left whinge activist accused Abbott of hitting the wall beside her head. That this activist clearly has skin in the game, that this supposedly happened in a usually crowded student union building and the activist has been unable to produce a single witness did not stop this allegation being aired nationally and frequently on this site.

However, when a labor youth member accuses Shorten of rape suddenly posters on this thread declare him "completely cleared" when no such thing has occurred and the investigation into a decades old rape is dropped through lack of evidence. So much for the Metoo brigade when one of their own is implicated.

Secondly, the ripping off workers by the unions in return for pay offs at Chiquita Mushrooms and Cleanevent whilst under the control of Shorten while not illegal stinks to high heaven, and the unions are unable to produce any evidence that clears Shorten of any direct involvement.

Finally, the donation from Shorten to Getup of $100 000 clearly required sign off by multiple other union officers without which it was clearly a misappropriation of funds or even embezzlement. That the union could quickly clear BS of these charges by producing the signed documents but instead are blocking any investigation through the courts makes BS look as guilty as hell.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 6 May 2019 5:53:53 AM
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