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Everything is beautiful in its own way...but who's way?

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Shadow, the unofficial journal of the Liberal Party the Murdoch gutter press tried to do a hatchet job on Shorten through his dead mother. One can only speculate if Morrison had an advanced copy, we'll never know. Then when the proverbial hit the fan, Morrison tried to "distance" himself from the whole sorry episode. Did you miss that one me old salt.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 2:49:51 PM
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Heard today (ABC) that would-be President Morrison didn't bother to tell cabinet about his plan to socialise housing and meddle in the market, big government style. "That's normal", claimed Morrison.

So, there's one reason for the lies that become apparent only after an election. The boss shoots of his mouth to the public; goes back to cabinet; the cabinet says, "Nuh. Leave the socialism to the other mob now that we are back in".
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 3:32:00 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

To bloody right which is why they are getting put above the LNP on my paper.

This was the kind of thing that went on in the 70s. Whitlam introduced a universal health scheme with Medibank, Fraser canned it and it only got cemented later with Hawke as Medicare.

The Maternity Leave act of 1973 was gutted by Fraser in 1979 and has only really got back on its legs after 2011.

All these things turnout to be inevitable it is just the conservative side of politics hated them and so stymied where they could.

It is policies articulated by the opposition which strives to shore up the notion that we are an egalitarian nation. I for one welcome them and they certainly outweigh my dislike of Shorten which is no small matter in itself.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 3:50:16 PM
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On the other hand:

The ALP and the Greens oppose growth in Australia via:

Hostility to the development of and eagerness to tax coal, gas and other resources, which are the nation’s most important exports

Determination to ensure the destructive substitution of high cost, unreliable wind and solar for low cost reliable coal for electricity generation

Measures that restrain the use of water for farming in Australia’s most important agricultural province, the Murray Darling, and in building new irrigation facilities and preventing land clearing in Queensland.

Why would anyone want to vote for either party.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 3:51:26 PM
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SM admire your standing by your sinking ship
However run a clean campaign?
Funny
As we prepare for Saturday night, the warm coffee, Anthony Green, even if he is constantly interrupted by the panel
We know the result, knew it 12 months ago
Australia has grown weary of a stale government at war with itself
My focus will be on those seats that see small l Liberals trying to beat the big Ls
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 3:54:57 PM
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ttbn, some of us have noticed the economics have changed; coal is no longer the cheap option, and renewables no longer the expensive option. Nor are our coal fired generators reliable, as Victoria discovered earlier this year.

We don't have enough rain for unrestricted irrigation in the Murray Darling Basin.

We will probably always export a lot of minerals, but for environmental reasons we're better off leaving the coal in the ground. I don't know why you have so little confidence in Australia's industry that you don't think we could export other things instead.

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GrahamY

Regarding your other points:
>You're always very keen to see faults in the Liberal government, and I think that blinds you to the truth.
How, exactly, do you think it blinds me to the truth? Apart from that water deal (which seems to me to be poor value no matter which party signs off on it) do you think I've made any invalid criticism of the government , and if so, what?

>You also don't seem to be worried about proven corruption from organisations like the CFMMEU.
Corruption is a serious problem that must be dealt with, and I'm in favour of a federal ICAC to do so. What I'm not worried about are accusations that Shorten's involved in any corruption. This was thoroughly investigated and he was cleared.
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 2:39:14 AM
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