Dear Bazz,

You and other posters on this forum should read the
following link. It just may align your fears:

http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.hubris-and-hate-speech-in-mark-latham-s-nation

cont'd ...

My apologies for the typo.

Here's the link again:

http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article/hubris-and-hate-speech-in-mark-latham-s-nation

It's worth a read.

Foxy no doubt I and maybe you, have become one of Grahams usual suspects
Nevertheless truth matters,to us at least
Do you know the daily smelly graph was once the Labor daily?
Then the Packers came along and made the comic book section go front frontpage to the back, inclusive
Mr America has refined it, no longer even in touch with truth it will get worse in the coming week
LOVE THE CLAIM WE ARE POLITICALLY NAIVE!
Same must apply to the just over half of voters about to vote this mob out
The thread deserves my saying sorry, got it wrong, yes it made unproven claims, yes again it made claims that have been investigated without any charges
BUT it did give us the opportunity to return serve, been fun
The walking SMIRK scomo, is in very real trouble, seems he may be blamed after the election
Who is their next leader? whisper is it is known within the ranks right now

Graham, nothing on water from me, confused with someone else. On Politicians, having met quite a few over the years, including several Prime Ministers. One thing I suspect of all the leaders, and that's from both sides, is that under the veneer of affability which they like to project to the general public, dwells a far more ruthless individual. Otherwise they would not achieve the paramount position they do. To reach the position of top dog over others just as ambitious as you, takes a degree of ruthlessness, guile, and at times down right nastiness, all in the name of success. Shorten has those qualities to succeed, and now and then despite the rigid attempts to hide them, they come out in Morrison. What was it Turnbull said when Morrison got the top job "I've been had!"

With politics being very much a popularity contest these days, to achieve that popularity it's sometimes necessary to project a false persona which resonates with the average Joe. That is the way of the beast. Its not wrong, and I dare say personally many politicians are likeable people, with good honest intentions, their mothers do love them.

My wife was a personal friend over many years of the NZ Prime Minister David Lange, and she claims that lovely persona he projected was in fact David Lange inside and out. Proves there is always an exception to every rule.

Dear Belly,

Most people I know don't have opinions that are
set in concrete. Data moves as we get more
information - our thoughts are not statues suspended
in time. The people I know use their brain - observing
the world and their immediate environment. They judge
people by their actions - not so much their words.

As I've told you previously - my husband and I have
already voted. Hopefully we've made the right choice.
Time will tell.

In our electorate a voter forum was held on climate change.
Liberal Party MP Kevin Andrews did not front voters to hear
their concerns.
Neither did two other Liberal Party candidates at a nearby
electorate. So much for listening to the concerns of
voters. Do these people really expect to be elected?
These days voters expect more from their MPs - than just
having them sit in Parliament and sleep while collecting
huge salaries.

Sorry Paul1405, it was Aidan. Not sure how I made that mistake. Apologies.