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Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 10:59:46 AM
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Paul yes but first an explanation
In another thread I told of a very real, but local problem, have had one of life's great joys, twice Told the upstart I was on to him, got everything I asked for, including the opportunity to use the same words on him I once used on a grub of a boss [my reason for resigning from my last job] he never made it past his one term Figures are good to great, in a few, one unexpected seats Too Liberals seem unlikely to win back Wentworth Even better Abbott is in trouble Dutton gone,big money spent in Wentworth and Abbott's seat looks wasted BUT it is not over every vote matters believe me it can turn the chook house looks insane Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 11:49:59 AM
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The latest Essential Research poll lists, in order of importance, voter concerns:
Health National security and terrorism Economy Down at No. 8, climate change. Too bad for the Greens and confused amateur 'independents’ naively betting on the third to last issue of importance. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:27:50 PM
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Goodness me - climate change not a priority?
In the past year leading up to this election, this country has experienced rolling climate emergencies - we've been told that huge swathes of Eastern Australia have endured the worst droughts in a century. We've seen on television apocalyptic scenes along the Murray Darling River System in which 1 million fish have died. Queensland floods have wiped out half a million cattle and bushfires have burned close to pristine rainforests. In usually cold Southern Tassie more bush-fires have raged across 190,000 hectares of land and devastated old-growth forests. Last year was Australia's hottest year on record and as winter begins many of the country's major cities are staring down the barrel of water restrictions with Sydney, Melbourne, Darwin, and Brisbane all facing the prospect of dams at just 50% capacity. However, on the campaign trail through warming cities, blackened bush and scorched outback the 2 contenders for the office of Prime Minister are trumpeting starkly different messages about what if anything should be done to address this crisis. Scott Morrison - representing the current government of the conservative Liberal Party and the National COALition - Morrison's stance can be summed up by his address to Parliament in 2017 - while brandishing a lump of coal. Climate change and its effects has always been something to be laughed up. And that's not hyperbole from the Left. In 2015 from former PM Tony Abbott (who once called climate change - crap) was caught on camera laughing about rising sea level in the Pacific. Whereas Bill Shorten promises significant action on climate change. There's a big difference between the two parties and their leaders. A recent event - the tornado that hit the coastal town of Warrnambool in Victoria destroying a caravan park, and the huge red dust storms near Mildura - brought the realities of climate change home to many residents. Farmers were losing their top soil. There's more on the following link: http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/07/climate-change-takes-centre-stage-in-australias-election Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 2:35:24 PM
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Dear Foxy,
The preliminary Lowe Report was also enlightening. "This year 61 per cent of voters said climate change was so serious and pressing we should address it now, even if was expensive. That is a 25 percentage point jump since 2012 and the highest number highest since 2006. But responses to that question showed stark differences between generations. Among Australians aged 18 to 29, 81 per cent thought we should take action on climate change, even if it was expensive. But less than half — 49 per cent — of those aged over 45 took the same view." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-08/australians-think-climate-change-bigger-threat-than-terrorism/11091276 This seems to be by far the biggest difference between the parties in who the electorate feels will be most effective on this issue. We also rank pretty highly internationally on the questions of concern about climate change. http://www.smh.com.au/national/australians-more-worried-about-climate-change-than-most-other-nations-poll-20190505-p51kb5.html The coalition are either asleep at the wheel or willfully ignoring the issue. Shorten would have been very happy to see Morrison waving around a lump of coal in parliament, he will never get past that whatever he spouts about Coalition policies. In actual fact in purely relative terms actions by our State governments, particularly Vic and SA have helped curb our emission acceleration quite well. But that attitude of the LNP sets them up as fair game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDtKFbXoQ6Q Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 3:20:25 PM
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Dear Steele,
Thanks for the links. Interestingly, I watched the program last night on the ABC - "Prince, Son and Heir: Charles at 70." I was amazed at how ahead of his time he was in his opinions (and practices) on sustainability, and his views on climate change. He can't understand how people can deny the science. A truly amazing man - yet one who's been described as a "nutter" by ignorant people. According to The Australian's Newspoll - this election has nothing to do with issues like border security which Libs are pushing. Spending on services tops the election priority list and climate change is not far behind. As the saying goes - You'll lose if you snooze. The Libs need to get their act together. I'll be watching the debate at 7.30pm tonight. Hopefully Shorten will do another Q&A style appearance - while Morrison remains he's own aggressive, shouty, "charming" self. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 3:48:52 PM
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Some news this morning, as you can attest, I'm usually good for a bit of inside news around these times. A phone chat with a Labor mate down south this morning, he tells me in a couple of NSW marginals latest Labor polling has the party with a 4% lead in both.