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ttbn,
Sorry, but those two events don’t compare at all. The former is a gaudy but harmless image and the latter are continual massacres.
Posted by Ahenobarbus, Friday, 19 April 2019 12:22:51 PM
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Hi there HASBEEN my friend...

May I depart, right off your Topic here; and wish everyone on OLO - A very 'peaceful' and 'Holy' Day ('Holy' for some) on this Good Friday, 2019. One of the most significant & meaningful days in the Christain Calendar, even for me, an atheist.

Thank you HASBEEN.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 19 April 2019 1:06:49 PM
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Dear Steele,

The Guardian, April 17, 2019, tell us that :-

According to the code of coduct which Israel
Folau agreed to and signed, players must -
"use social media appropriately, treat everyone
fairly, and with dignity, regardless of gender
or gender identity, sexual orientation, and must
not bring you, your team, or rugby into disrepute."

We're told that whether something constitutes a
low or high level breach depends on whether the
action was intentional, whether the conduct -
"caused offence to the general public's sensibilities
and caused reputational damage to Rugby Australia, breached
the "core value" of discipline and respect and other
factors."

Rugby Australia's Chief - Castle has said that Folau
"was warned formally and repeatedly about the expectations
of him as a player for the Wallabies and NSW Waratahs with
regards to social media use and he has failed to meet
those obligations."

In April last year Folau made a similar post that said -
"God's plan for gay people was hell." Rugby Australia
had issued him a warning but took no disciplinary
action.

Last week Castle said - "Whilst Israel is entitled to
his religious beliefs, the way in which he has expressed these
beliefs is inconsistent with the values of the sport.
Israel has failed to understand that the expectation of him
as a Rugby Australia and NSW Waratahs employee is that he
cannot share material on social media that condemns,
vilifies or discriminates against people on the basis of
their sexuality."

Israel Folau has notified Rugby Australia of his intention
to contest a "high level"code of conduct breach notice,
with the matter set to head to a tribunal hearing.

It will be interesting to see what the result will be.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 April 2019 2:08:06 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Steele,

Rugby Australia will now make arrangements with the
Rugby Union Players'Association (RUPA) to bring
together the Code of Conduct Hearing.

The governing body has said Folau committed a
"high level"breach of the professional players'
code of conduct, and had ignored formal
instruction not to make any social media posts that
"condemn, vilify, or discriminate against people on
the basis of their sexuality."

Both are potentially grounds for termination of the
player's contract - which he signed and which was due
to run for 4 years.

Rugby Australia gave Folau 48 hours to decide whether
to contest the finding that he breached the code of
conduct. He's decided to do that and it will now go before
a code of conduct committee. The committee has the
power to decide whether Folau committed a breach and if
so whether it was a "low, mid, or high level breach."

The burden of proof will be on Rugby Australia to prove
the breach, and it will be determined on a "balance of
probabilities."

According to the code of conduct the Committee must have
at least 3 members, one of whom should be a lawyer or
a former judge.

Interesting times ahead.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 April 2019 2:18:26 PM
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Dear Foxy,

So ....... in future, in order to gain employment, it may become standard that people sign a form attesting that they will not express their beliefs, and thereby exercise their freedom of speech ?

Anything else people might have to give up in order to keep their jobs ?

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 19 April 2019 3:01:13 PM
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Few here will share my love of NRL but it has a contribution to make in this discussion
See Hasbeens description in post one, about thugby will sit better if it is tagged to my game
For a few years not so bright big heads have bought the world down on their heads
Right now three ex internationals, including one great player from my red v team
No support from me for any sex offender
The sport has barred two from playing until they face court
Others dropped forever before court
Court for my bloke is 12 months away
IF he is guilty ok by me
But what if he is not? has the sport the right to end a champions paying life? income?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 19 April 2019 4:22:19 PM
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