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Criminalisation of parenting

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Yuyutsu,

I was raised in the belief that human life is
sacred. And these two boys were not given
a chance to live theirs. We don't know how
and where they would have ended up had they
been afforded the proper protections.
Their deaths are a tragedy - the loss of
human life always is.
The fact that you don't see that I find rather
disturbing.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 8 April 2019 1:22:08 PM
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Dear Foxy,

We all, myself included, were raised with the prevailing beliefs of our tribe. This is good enough for children, but as one matures, one ought to use wisdom and logic to test these beliefs.

The boys DID get a chance to live their life. Who said that their lives were not fulfilled at 3 and 5 respectively? Who said that the purpose of their lives was not already achieved? Who said that their lives ought to have been 80-90 years long? Who said that by 80-90 their lives would necessarily be fulfilled, rather than wasted? Who said that rather than drowning, the right thing for them would be to die of a prolonged and debilitating degenerative medical condition?

I understand that you are a Christian: what if, God called these two boys to Him, to His Kingdom of Heaven, because He decided that they suffered enough on earth? This act of God was certainly inhuman, but do you consider it to be wrong?

Yes indeed, we ought not to take other's lives (animals included) and a mature, rational explanation can be made for it, but the simplistic and lazy reasoning as if "human life is sacred", is incorrect and based only on fear and the impossible wish to avoid physical death.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 8 April 2019 2:59:04 PM
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yuyutsu you are far from the average in thinking that way
Not much point in trying to change us
The children deserved much better
Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 April 2019 3:34:11 PM
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Yuyutsu,

Every religious tradition teaches the deep sacredness
of life. After all, if a Creator gave the creation of
life, then we've all received a profound gift to
protect and cherish.

A mother's job is to protect her children. This mother
obviously did not do her job as her children drowned.
A 3 and a 5 year old child should not go
unsupervised near a broad expanse of water.

Whether this was for the best, and whether they were
called by a higher authority - is debatable. However
the law now will decide this case. To me it is a tragedy
because it could have been prevented.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 8 April 2019 3:47:18 PM
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Dear Belly,

I cannot change you anyway, but I can challenge your ideas, which is what we all do in this site:

Are you afraid perhaps that by letting go of this branch, of this false, illogical belief as if "human life is sacred", you would suddenly become a monster, a murderer? Don't you trust your own loving nature?

The statement is incorrect, so why rely on it? I can give you better, broader and more solid reasons as to why you should not kill others!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 8 April 2019 3:53:02 PM
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about 100000 unborn babies murdered each year. Barbaric! Futures stolen like these 2 poor kids. Oh well keeps the industry getting tax payer money!
Posted by runner, Monday, 8 April 2019 4:40:48 PM
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