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Australian politics there is a center

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Dear Belly,

I watched Bill Shorten's reply to the Libs budget
speech. He was very confident as was the team
sitting behind him. Katherine Murphy from The
Guardian Australia pointed out that Labor is
selling a team to voters, not a presidential
leader. It is also framing a positive campaign
in the process projecting itself as the incumbents
daring the government to go negative.

Shorten's speech directly appeals to the Labor
base, to women and young people. Many connection
points from tax relief to workers who have not
got any wage rises, the return of lost penalty rates,
to the cancer package.

The cancer pledge in particular connects with so
many people and speaks to their lived experience.
It will make disillusioned voters sit up and take
notice.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 7 April 2019 6:46:48 PM
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Foxy yes and I know it is a good team, truly Bill has an ego, all good leaders do, he will be trusted in government
And liked, hard not to like the real Bill
However he knows he and my party are on trial, dare not stuff up
We honest thinkers know the GFC hurt Labor, we unfairly get the blame for it
Yet rarely see that this country's debt has doubled post our last time in government
Center, this mornings poll, shows, clearly, 53/47 this government has been held to account, *because it abandoned the center* ran away from it in fact
And that is the gift internal warfare in the right controlled government, seemingly unable to see or hear its own base, has given Labor, another chance at governing
Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 April 2019 8:03:34 AM
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Today I saw a politician undermine his own party and its relationship with the center
Our treasurer bad mouthed the Labor policy on EVs
Yet he drives one
More importantly he ignored the fact most who have them are middle and upper income
That makes them likely to be his voters
Posted by Belly, Monday, 8 April 2019 3:45:52 PM
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Dear Belly,

If they continue with their negativity in
their campaigning - they will lose the
voters even further. It's to their own
detriment to continue with these outmoded
tactics of yesterday.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 8 April 2019 3:52:06 PM
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The 'centre'.
I reckon your full of it on this one Belly.
You couldn't even spell it the right way.
Can't you remember what country were in mate?

What do you purport to know about 'the centre' if you can't even spell it right and don't know what country we're in?

Anyway, I'd like to make my counter-argument by questioning whether or not a 'centre' actually even exists;

Stating that a 'centre' actually exists is a bit of a fallacy.
- You're assuming that there is some common middle-ground that all participants recognise.

* But there's not.

Muslims and Christians aren't going to support gays.
- No middle ground -
Nationalists aren't going to support Globalism
- No middle ground -
Muslims won't support anything other than Islam
- No middle ground -
Feminists won't support Anti-Abortionists
- No middle ground -

And on and on and on it goes...
You're living in a fantasy land if you think a 'centre' actually exists.

We don't believe in democracy per se.

Muslims believe what they believe.
Christians believe what they believe.
Nationalists, Globalists, Muslims, Feminists and Anti-Abortionists.
None of these groups are on the same page;
They believe what they believe first over and above the political process.

What the bigger picture of this situation?
All sides are playing each other off and no-one gets what they want.

You're thinking it's the 'centre' that's important.
It's not, it's the extreme opinions on both sides which polarise the issues and shape the arguments and progress going forward.

That's what brought us being sold out to UN agendas instead of developing our our workable policies.

It was never about the 'centre' or 'our interests'.
It was all about hijacking our system and benefiting from the chaos for 'some other globalist interests'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 April 2019 4:49:47 PM
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speaking as a Christian Armchair you are largely right. You left out the marxist though. America democratically elected a President and all we have had is dummy spits, fake news, fake Russian collusion fantasies, fake race crimes, fake rape allegations, fake science and true hatred from the lying liberal media.

The only truely harmonious nations were those that adopted Judea Christian ethics. Now that has been trashed by god haters we see the West completely divided and collaping very quickly. Oh but we can now butcher our children up to birth and beyond. Such liberty and freedom for the oppressed feminsist!
Posted by runner, Monday, 8 April 2019 4:58:14 PM
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