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Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 March 2019 3:13:40 PM
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o sung wu
I spent a number of years in law enforcement including time at Goulburn gaol as a screw. Strangely enough I cared little about politics for a long time and would not of known what a conservative or progressive was for years. I have the upmost respect for most police officers and others who have an increasingly difficult job to do. Obviously their are some bad apples but by and large most law enforcement officers in Australia are doing a difficult job to make Australia safe. I really would not know if most law enforcement officers are conservative or not. Conservatives by and large seem to be far more rational and much more commonsense than progressives. Can't believe how dumbed down so many of our academics are. They certainly stick far more to a narrative than using reason and observation to reach conclusions. Certainly science and reason has been trashed. I think next election I will vote one nation for the first time. I don't actually agree with all their policies and think the 2 guys speaking to the fake nra were fools. I do however detest the dishonest media. Imagine putting the same effort in exposing the perverted idiotic policies of the Greens as they have one nation. Morrison has lost me since putting Labour (that means also Greens) before one nation. Posted by runner, Friday, 29 March 2019 3:23:33 PM
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Dear Belly,
One of the great flaws in my country, the USA, is the extent to which it has been militarized. www.truthmove.org/content/us-militarism “The largest industry in the world is also the most destructive, and no country has a larger stake than the United States. Our military budget, arms sales, distribution, and subsidies dwarf those of every other nation. We make war. The industrial motives behind our wars and the destruction of human lives, communities, and ecosystems that result, continue to be obscured by a mainstream media owned by those who profit from war. As a result the US public knows less about the wars we fight than people in other parts of the world. This must change if we are to avoid letting this country be run by those with little regard for its people or our democratic tradition. Our National Security Strategy seeks to ensure the extension of US corporate influence and security through global military dominance. This is to be achieved with the development and use of satellite weapons, remote control of the battlefield, surveillance of all digital communication and transactions, and the next generation of nuclear weapons. The goal is “Full Spectrum Dominance,” or total awareness and control of the battlefield. And in our present “Global War on Terror,” the world has become our battlefield. The US is positioning itself as a unilateral and preemptive global strike force of unparalleled strength, advancing corporate interests while continuing to disregard international law and human rights.” Kennedy was an ardent cold warrior expanding the military, and Obama did little to check militarism. Trump is far worse than either cutting domestic spending while increasing the military budget. Both Kennedy and Obama are romantic figures so their flaws are often overlooked. continued Posted by david f, Friday, 29 March 2019 5:20:55 PM
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Eisenhower pointed out the dangers of militarism http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/eisenhower001.asp “Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations. Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence—economic, political, even spiritual—is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.” The USA and the great Republican party which produced Lincoln and Eisenhower is now represented by a scoundrel president. Posted by david f, Friday, 29 March 2019 5:26:12 PM
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Foxy found a site that keeps track of all Trump's 'lies'.
In one instance Trump said he was in Scotland the day before the Brexit vote when in fact, according to the diarist, it was the day after. Oh the shock..the horror. How did his presidency survive that whopper. I wonder if the Trump derangement syndrome crowd would consider that lie on a par with "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too." or "the Benghazi attack was a protest against a video" (let's ask Chris Stevens if he agrees with that...oh wait!) or the story about dodging snipers in Sarajevo? Nah, those have all been flushed down the memory hole to protect the reputation of the "remarkably scandal-free administration". BTW, do you know Austrians speak Austrian? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1diNthezRk Posted by mhaze, Friday, 29 March 2019 5:39:25 PM
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Hi there RUNNER...
That's interesting. Now I know you were a Prison Officer at Goulburn Gaol. It's a general view, held among most police members that Prison Officers face profoundly more hazardous duty, in their daily work role, than most coppers do in a month. Anyway, it's not a matter of 'occupational' comparison; I'm merely stating a fact. Thank you for telling me RUNNER. I've only been to Goulburn a half dozen times, most of my connection with your former Department, was at the Bay, and then only with 'four wheels'? Later, as a detective I had many 'professional' visitations at both Long Bay & Parramatta, with people we wanted to interview, other than that, we didn't have too much interaction with the Officers employed there. One funny incident, if I may. Do you know where the professional visiting boxes are, at Long Bay? Well, back in the day, we were interviewing this crook well known for his short fuse. All of a sudden, pursuant to our line of questioning, he suddenly got up, and ran screaming towards the caged 'Sally Port' at the front Gate, yelling loudly to the Officers inside, to shoot us, as he reckoned we're 'verballing' him, the silly poor bastard! Runner, you'll not find too many coppers speaking ill of Prison Officers. It's quite the contrary. We, including myself, understand the menacing and treacherous duties our brother Officers perform, on a daily basis. Thus they all have our respect! Back on topic though; When it comes to the various news 'hacks,' purporting to report faithfully, and honestly the events surrounding the activities of President Donald TRUMP, truth and honesty are perhaps the last things people wish? I'm nearly eighty years of age now, and I can't ever recall a US President, ever getting so much negative media, then Mr. TRUMP. Even Richard (call me 'Dick') NIXON at the height of Watergate, was treated more favorably than the incumbent? I reckon RUNNER; it's become a real 'Health Hazard' to be known as a 'conservative', what do you think my friend? Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 29 March 2019 5:41:27 PM
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You can Google all those subjects concerning Mr
Trump. The information is there on the web.
There's plenty of it. Here's just one example
concerning lies:
http://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-lie-list