What do voters see in these failed parties
Belly,
they have not failed, it's just that there are still more people like you out there who outnumber those who care for this nation rather than just party loyalty !

As I said individual it concerns me knowing you believe that
Tickles me knowing you think your blind support for the radical right, is different, in any way, to my support for my side
NZ today showed the world how to behave, we would be better for following them than the lunatic right

Belly & Individual,

There is a brilliant article in today's Australian by Henry Ergas in which he infers that Gramscianism and Fascism were not so far apart - they both believed that civil bourgeois institutions had to be torn down and a 'New Society' built in their place. I'm reminded that Mussolini, Vroce and Gentile in Italy made the ghastly 'progression' from socialism to fascism in amazingly short times.

So I'm not sure that extreme 'Left' and extreme 'Right' are all that different. So, for example, I can't tell whether the 'Yellow Vests' [gilets jaunes] in france are 'Left' or 'Right'. I suppose if you're a car-owner, and some bastard sets it alight, you're not that particular who you'd go for with a lump of wood.

Cheers,

Joe

Loudmouth found that interesting but have something to add
It has always been my view at least 80 percent of voters/people hold much the same views
Truly not finding many Socialists, or for that matter one nation, Australian conservatives, shooters party, and few who can talk of Bob Katter, without laughing
Lump them and in truth, near 90 percent think alike
Progressives, leftists, all Trump words, are meaningless
The ALP would never again, ever, be elected if it was a Socialist party
Compare our two sides, with America, and you will see both are in part socialist here

The ALP would never again, ever, be elected if it was a Socialist party
Belly,
I think you're trying to set a new record in being wrong. The ALP would never again be elected if 49% of voters were to be educated to think by themselves !

indy press your opinion by all means
But understand in saying YOU know more than 49 percent of the population YOU win my case
You live in total darkness when it comes to politics
Fact is the ALP gets the largest primary vote out of all in this country