Indi,

I think it a case of a death being viewed from the perspective of its political value. I'd add that I am very uncomfortable with the "that is how they all think" summation as I cannot differentiate it from identity politics.

Refugees, almost by definition, are very different in their aspirations, from migrants. Refugees on the whole don't want to leave their country, but have to. Migrants may be happy to, at least for a time. It may be very necessary for refugees to leave their country and go to another country, but it may well be that they would be happier staying in their own country. But, of course, they can't.

So they have to reconcile themselves to staying in another country, where they have to learn another language, and negotiate very different economic, legal and cultural issues.

More than forty years ago, the late wonderful Nigerian-American educator, John U. Ogbu, made a thorough study of educational performance in a number of key countries, of native-born, immigrant, Indigenous and refugee populations. He concluded that the Indigenous and refugee populations, who tended to be unwilling participants in societies dominated by other groups, that their educational performance was correspondingly poorer than for dominant or willing-immigrant groups. Similarly, one could suggest, refugees have problems in integrating into a strange society, but - also by definition - that's what an effective refugee settlement policy has to manage successfully.

Refugees have specific problems that are distinct from those of immigrants, as well as, of course, some similar issues - not to mention problems relating to the ethnicity of dominant groups in host societies. So of course, refugees here need specific support programs in learning English, in improving and dovetailing their skills towards available jobs, in finding all of the standard aspirational comforts like housing, schooling, health services, etc., like anybody else.

Young people in refugee groups thereby have a range of problems which both their own community and the mainstream society and services may find difficult to resolve. So there is an urgent need for programs which embrace and incorporate young people from refugee populations into an inclusive and mainstream society.

Joe

Belly, I think for some on both sides it's a thing to hang onto rather than any particular attention to the issues.

I read an interesting article a while ago about the Sydney Somali community. No first hand knowledge of the issues so it could have been spin but "felt" right. I don't really like the identity aspect of a term like Somali community for a group living within Australia but it's probably useful in this context.

Basic premise was that the Sydney Somali community were bothered by the issues in Melbourne and the flow on to them. In part because they had taken some proactive steps when they started to rise with Somali youth in Sydney to nip it in the bud. If the article was at all accurate it made good sense.

In my view what's ascribed to racism is actually a cultural preference, most tend to function where the behaviours and attitudes of others are largely predictable with just enough variation thrown in to keep life interesting but not threatening.

I also suspect that many of those scream racist, sexist, somethingphobic etc are projecting. That they don't really believe in the equality of those groups they don't consider as able as themselves or their group but want to think of themselves as good so fight to help those who they don't think can help themselves. Somewhat oversimplified but trying to get a summation in a short read.

Others are just biggot's who find it convenient to virtue signal to keep a particular crowd onside.

Have you seen Avi Yemini's exposure of what happened during a Jim Jefferies interview when Jim thought his inconvenient comments would be edited out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odCQhAezB_Q&t=7s I suspect the same applies to a lot of political figures on the right who like to spout their respect for god etc and their lives tell a very different story.

R0bert

Its all hypocritical bs at the heart of it anyway.

It's ok for Islam to crap on other peoples cultures.
- Look at every western nation -

They can take over our suburbs, form gangs and bash us until near death on our own streets;
But were not allowed to say anything bad about them, or their culture.
Or we are racist?

What a load of shite

To think they will influence our laws until they take over our way of life completely, (using the equality, minority, victimhood doctrine) and we're the ones who are labelled racist and demonised if we dare to complain about it.

It's ok to crap on white males
- search google news for 'white male' the dirty hypocrites

Say anything bad about anyone else and you'll be flagged for hate speech and shadow banned on facebook, twitter and google and youtube, as well as watched by government agencies on watch lists for potential right-wing terrorists.

I wish Muslims and Africans in Australia never existed.

Is it hate speech or is it a reflection of my true beliefs under 18D?

I mean tell me has any western country EVER seamlessly integrated Africans and Muslims into their nations?
Do we have ANY successful examples of this AT ALL?

- I'd have a whole lot less to complain about and I wouldn't be treated like a potential terrorist for saying what I think about the state of this stupid countries affairs -

Right at this moment Q&A is falling ar$e over backwards to pour fuel into the fire fanning racism by the racists feigning victimhood !
Silly mutt Tony Jones has fallen for it, he needs to be pensioned off. He is a disgrace to decency !