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Shock Terrorist Attack In New Zealand.

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Issy, it could have been stopped if Islamophobs the world over did not collective act to radicalises this maniac, and set him on his murderous path. They can all take a little bit of the painful reality for every time they vilified ALL Muslims without giving it a second thought. For all we know it could have been a post by one on here, about the evils of Muslims everywhere that finally drove this maniac over the edge. No one knows.

As Abbott said; "Islamophobia did not kill anyone" Sure got that wrong!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 9:55:14 PM
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'For all we know it could have been a post by one on here, about the evils of Muslims everywhere that finally drove this maniac over the edge. No one knows. '

yep true Paul. Could be a young girl who was forced to marry an old man complaining or a woman who had objected to circumcism. It certainly does not take much of a trigger to set off violence among many muslims. The left are also pretty good. Just get someone they disagree with and the Antifa thugs see it as a great opportunity to show their true colours.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 10:02:38 PM
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runner no one, I think, is excusing the faults, and there are many, in the Islamic faith
That faith, like every faith, needs an update
Needs an understanding every God is claimed to be the only one,
The creator
If so we need to know why he/she created the others, was it to give us someone to hate
HIGHLIGHT true and existing problems in the Islamic faith
But do not ignore massive crimes against children by perophils in the Catholic Church
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 21 March 2019 4:37:58 AM
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runner, after considering carefully the pros and cons of religion as a way of betterment in ones life, I'm an atheists. I believe the vast majority of the 7.5 billion people on the planet are essentially good.... born, live their life, and die. If you can get from the cradle to the grave and have a reasonably happy life in between, all well and good, many don't even achieve that. In a short time after death, we are forgotten, its as if we never lived. The belief in a god that is waiting to give us an eternal afterlife in paradise is a nice thought, but all it is, is a hopeful dream. Religion gives hope to millions that their life is worthwhile and they will be rewarded after death by the merciful loving god in some place of peace and happiness called heaven where they will live on for eternity. I suppose in that way, even if the hope is a false hope, religion does achieve something, and if religion in some way leads to a betterment in one life that's also a positive. Unfortunately far too often religion has been used as a means of hate and intolerance, a way of perpetuating unjustified persecution of millions, the evil side of organised religions. The evils of religion is not restricted to one particular religion, but is spread among all in some form or another. I don't blame all the evils of Islam on all Muslims, just as I don't blame all the evils of Christianity on all Christians.

Issy asked how could the Christchurch tragedy be prevented, remove all the evils from all religions, that might be the answer. Something is terribly wrong if one soul believes he has to go and kill 50 other innocent souls because he feels there is something terribly wrong and threatening with their religion. Is this what we have come to expect from organised religion in our modern world? Hate for the other person, rather than love. This maniac was wrong in what he did, and there is no justification.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 21 March 2019 5:48:17 AM
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But do not ignore massive crimes against children by perophils in the Catholic Church
Belly,
It was actually Julia Gillard who instigated the commission into that.
We're still waiting for the Muslims to do one into their practices.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 21 March 2019 9:15:05 AM
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I see that we are to spend over $100,000 to improve the security of mosques.
Fair enough, but has anyone done a risk study on Churches ?
Using figures for the world then churches are at far more risk
than mosques.
As far as I am aware there has been no problem in Australia for churches.
Do we have to wait for an incidence ?
We did not wait for an incident for airports.
I went to an meeting at a Jewish establishment in Sydney and the
security there was obvious at the gate but more subtle elsewhere.
They have had threats but as far as I know nothing serious.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:57:13 AM
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