Issy, nice try at deflection. I fail to see the relationship between medical death rates in the US, and the need for gun law reform in New Zealand. Is there any possibility that when the person selling these high powered weapons to this maniac, or the ones giving instruction in their us, do you think the though might have crossed their mind; "what is this person going to do with this powerful weapon". No maybe they were to busy thinking of the dollars they were making.

Are you in favour of New Zealand introducing tough new gun laws?
No, because they would achieve nothing.

Well New Zealand law makers along with the NZ public beg to differ.

And tell me Issy what part(s) will actually achieve nothing, since you are the only person on earth who at this moment knows what the NZ government proposes to introduce as gun law reform. They haven't even put a package together, you are an amazing future teller.

Made up your mine without even knowing what will be proposed! Foot in mouth.

Paul,

"Made up your mine without even knowing what will be proposed! Foot in mouth."

My mine is not made up, it's just a tunnel into a hillside and I don't work it much these days.

I was just wondering if you would apply the same criteria to car dealers and medical suppliers.

Would you care to answer the question as to what could have been done to stop the murderer, Steele and Foxy obviously can't or won't.

Give it a try!

Abdul Aziz should be awarded NZ's highest civilian award for bravery,

"The New Zealand Cross (NZC) is New Zealand's highest award for bravery not in the face of the enemy[2]. It was instituted by Royal Warrant on 20 September 1999[3] as part of the move to replace British bravery awards with an indigenous New Zealand Bravery system. The medal, which may be awarded posthumously, is granted in recognition of "acts of great bravery in situations of extreme danger". The medal is primarily a civilian award, but it is also awarded to members of the armed forces who perform acts of bravery in non-operational circumstances (given that the New Zealand gallantry awards may only be awarded "while involved in war and warlike operational service (including peacekeeping)".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Cross_(1999)

Abdul Aziz, of NZ, will go down in history as a selfless hero, and long may he be remembered.

Issy, for your peace of mind we could ban all sporting and recreational gun use. Criminal activity using a firearm could land you with an extra 20 years in jail. The possession, sale or distribution of a firearm for any other purpose that those accepted professional reasons, police, military, some licensed professionals gun users, but a relative few only, should land the offender with 5 years imprisonment.
The Rambo gung ho brigade will just have to be satisfied with their thumb and forefinger and going bang, bang, and watching replays of 'Gunsmoke', no imprisonment for bods like you doing what you love with fingers and TV's.

Paul,

Save us the 'humour'
and tell us how the murderer could have been stopped?

"no imprisonment for bods like you doing what you love with fingers and TV's."

Careful Is Mise, that's what they tell you now. But once they've got what they want, they'll up their demands. 'Gunsmoke' will be banned before you can say "Sam, go and get Matt." (catch phrase from the show)

Of course, as we've seen in Britain ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003h5n ) once the guns are gone, then they'll have to come after the knives. And instead of banning 'Gunsmoke' they'll be banning 'Jim Bowie' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiMU4rZEVoA