Is Mise- Cheers to you and to SFF. May they reign well. The dawn of a new age.

Let us face a truth numbers matter
HFF party, apart from the chook pen, upper house are powerless
Three independents are to vote with the government
46 maybe 47, plus three?
Bills will pass that house no matter how greens or HFF votes
Extreme right, other than Latham,won zero seats, unless in the chook pen
now Nationals are on the nose, HFF another right party transferred their votes, most likely only hurting? conservatives
IF they take all National seats, in time they may, they will still need the LIBERALS to ride on to get anything done
But if HFF got more seats the Liberals, under the agreement that holds the LNP together, could compete for those seats
I suspect the Liberals would better represent country folk than the nats of HFF mob

Issy,

I'm not knocking the result of your Shooters and Hooters Party, what I was trying to point out there were a couple of factors which caused a somewhat skewed result in favour of the SFF in the form of a protest vote. One was the drought, and the perceived poor response from the Nationals, secondly was the infighting within the National Party. What this result does do for the SFF it gives them an opportunity to build a broader base in Regional NSW at the expense of the National Party.

I found the short speech from Philip Donato the member for Orange a reasonable account of the position in the bush, and if the other new SFF members take a similar approach, and the party works harder on policy then they could establish themselves as a real alternative to the Nationals. The National Party has had a monopoly on bush representation for years, now someone has come alone offering a real alternative.

What few on here would know, is the Country Party (Nationals) in early Australian political history was a far more "socialistic" party than what the National Party is today. Through a long period of coalition with conservatives, the party has moved more to the right, and lost much of its early identity. I detect an element of "conservative socialism" within the Shooters and Hooters today. I'm not saying that's necessarily a good thing, I also detect it in One Nation as well. If you throw in a degree of nationalism with socialism you have 'National Socialists' a Nazi lite party like One Nation.

Extreme right?
Get your hand off it Belly.

In my opinion the word 'far' as in 'far-left' or 'far-right' denotes a willingness to publicly cause violence and wreck up the place and physically attack members of the opposition.

The ONLY lot fitting that description in the current political climate is the left, your lot.

- Empowered Antifa Hordes of Chaos -

What do we have on the right ?
(Wait for it, drumroll please

We have Neil Henriksson and a 'mock beheading'.

Well woopty bloody do mate...

But you go a step further and denote 'Extreme right'

I'm imagining some kind of Rambo headhunter cross-breed who has the heads of minorities tied from his battle armour.

What is it exactly that you're imagining?

AC //In my opinion the word 'far' as in 'far-left' or 'far-right' denotes a willingness to publicly cause violence and wreck up the place and physically attack members of the opposition.//

Its exactly that; an opinion. Telling Belly to "Get your hand off it" because his perception of extremism is different to yours is discourteous. In the context of pre-war Nazi Germany your definition would be entirely appropriate. In the context of a modern moderate Australian society what constitutes extremism is far less compelling.

I find your views as posted on this forum often to be extreme. In relation to the Christchurch terror attack, you said your reaction was one of laughter, the majority of Australian would find that response extreme, and I agree.

I wonder what Paul1405's view is of "Face Punch California".