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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 March 2019 1:56:49 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw-election-2019/surf-lifesaver-rugby-star-motorbike-riding-newcomer-labor-s-only-shining-light-20190324-p5172a.html
Wanted, the NSW ALP is looking for a leader, I recommend the lady in my link, or Jodie MacKay However there are some things needed, and understanding NSW does not stand for Newcastle Sydney Wollongong An ability not to turn in to a racist fool while on camera, oh yes keep your hands to yourself when drunk Last your factional mates are not the most important people in the world, voters are Yes AC got it wrong knew it would be hard never thought we would take a torpedo, from our then leader BLAME? apart from him EDDY OBEID he and his filth saw us with lost seats we may never regain, we should never ever forgive that mob Foxy, voters got it right Posted by Belly, Monday, 25 March 2019 2:53:41 PM
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Foxy,
Barnaby Joyce is a well-liked local member and will be reelected for sure and will be doing his utmost for his electorate as a member of the next Federal Government. Probably a bit early for him to get a portfolio, that'll come mid-term in the first shakeup. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 25 March 2019 5:04:48 PM
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Maybe I'm not too bright but I have the suspicion that the natural allies of the Greens are not the Labor Party but the 'left-wing' of the Liberal Party - both represent economically well-off people, so economic issues are not as important as their self-indulgent take on social issues. The more natural allies of sections of the working-class, the usual base of the Labor Party, is - I hate to write this - the One Nation Party.
Certainly, the Greens take votes from the left-wing (and usually more affluent and professional) sections of the Labor Party but I'm intrigued that Green seats (and seats that both Labor and the Libs fear will be taken by the Greens) tend to be in affluent electorates (Kooyong, for god's sake), and certainly not in working-class areas. If anything, the Labor Party probably fears a loss of working-class support to One Nation. These sorts of movements and alliances make a bit of a mockery of 'Left' and 'Right': they are more likely to be characterised by new terms such as 'self-indulgent' and 'fearful', tarted up, of course, as 'socially-concerned'. Strange times. Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 25 March 2019 5:26:32 PM
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Hi Joe,
Being rather cynical with terms 'self-indulgent' and 'fearful'. Not clear on who are the ones "tarted up, of course, as 'socially-concerned'", the self-indulgent or the fearful. //Maybe I'm not too bright but I have the suspicion that the natural allies of the Greens are not the Labor Party but the 'left-wing' of the Liberal Party// If I delete "left-wing" and add the progressive sections of both Liberal and Labor parties then there would be no need for suspicion, it would be an absolutely truth. I can assure you 15-20% of Green preferences go to the Liberals. In round figures the Greens poll something like 1.3 million votes nation wide, to say 260K are economic conservatives but social progressives is about right. To draw so many votes away from a party strongly focused on economic issues is not surprising but its only about 5% of the Liberal constituency. //The more natural allies of sections of the working-class, the usual base of the Labor Party, is - I hate to write this - the One Nation Party.// There is some draw down from the lower socio-economic conservative Labor voters to One Nation, but far greater is the defection of Liberal voters, where by One Nation draws from a wider group that would otherwise be conservative Liberal voters. I suspect One Nation draws votes from the two major parties in about the same proportions as do the Greens, but inversely. To put it in perspective the rise of the Greens is bad for Labor, equally the rise of One Nation is bad for the Coalition. The saving grace is the flow back of preferences to the big parties. The Liberals are looking at a real dilemma in how they preference One Nation in relation to the Labor Party. Labor has no such problem, they preference the Greens above the Liberals, and it alienates none of their constituency. Should the Liberals preference One Nation above Labor it will alienate a section of their moderate base, enough to see them vote Labor. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 25 March 2019 9:18:08 PM
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Here I go at it again, we learn nothing if we remain blind to voters needs wants and intentions
As our Glad has won a majority, she needs no other party to rule She has 38 seats needed 37 to rule on her own She will be happy to take the three independents votes What then of the Greens? the hunters and grunters? how can they achieve anything Even if Labor votes with them Now For the chook pen Can we agree voters have spoken They want our Glad to rule? why should that house of ill repute stall her? She has every right to rule, let the electorate in 4 years judge her not the chook pen Question, how long will it take Mark Latham, to leave one notion?[not a spelling mistake] Will be form his own party Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 5:06:22 AM
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Nice job mate.
Sorry to hear your side lost.
(Not really, but I can pretend for the sake of being nice)