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Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 3 March 2019 5:25:19 PM
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Is Mise,
You are right, Foxy appears to have made her mind up and condemned Pell well prior to this trial as she has referred to previous allegations and appears to think they should have some bearing on the outcome here. Well they do not and nor should they. I keep coming back to the accuser's statement which has not been released. Does it contain information that makes Pell guilty? Louise Milligan indicated it makes the accuser believable. What does it contain that it has to be kept secret? The jury took 2 1/2 days to decide on the verdict so it has to be contentious. Then at the first trial the jury could not agree on whatever it was Posted by HenryL, Sunday, 3 March 2019 7:22:26 PM
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Foxy,
"Here's a link that lists some of the allegations about Cardinal Pell's behaviour that have followed him for years" Yes Foxy, you are making my case for me. Pell wasn't found guilty because the evidence was compelling, he was found guilty because a hostile media doing the work of a hostile anti-Christian lobby convinced enough people that there must be a fire where there's smoke. Lots of allegations that couldn't be proved or even processed by a bias police force convinced enough people that he was guilty of something. You seem to be confirming that. "It is very rare that ab Appeal Court overrules that of a jury decision" But not rare enough for your liking I'd wager... http://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/former-catholic-archbishop-philip-wilson-wins-appeal-has-conviction-overturned-20181206-p50knr.html Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 3 March 2019 9:14:43 PM
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mhaze,
Catholic Archbishop Philip Wilson's case is different from that of Cardinal Pell in so many ways. Archbishop was not convicted as a pedophile. He was accused for concealing child sex abuse done by another priest. And this charge was hard to prove. The offending priest had been charged with other child sex abuse crimes and he was convicted before dying in jail. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/philip-wilson-sex-abuse-conviction-overturned/10595040 Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 March 2019 9:41:33 PM
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cont'd ...
Cardinal Pell was found guilty because a jury of 12 having listened to the very strong directions by the chief judge, having listened to the 14 witnesses called by prosecutors, having heard one first hand witness who gave evidence - which is apparently the procedure followed in "word-on-word"sexual abuse trials, having had all the improbabilities pointed out to them, and having inspected the Cardinal's robes, unanimously convicted the Cardinal. The evidence that was presented to them they found to be compelling to come to this conclusion. What the results of the Cardinal's Appeal will be neither you nor I have any way of knowing. So wagering on this issue would be a waste of both our time. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 March 2019 9:53:49 PM
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Hey, fellas. There is no point in arguing with a termagant.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 3 March 2019 10:28:58 PM
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and that's all that they are, allegations.