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The Forum > General Discussion > Foul Murder - The Emotional Drain - On Law-Enforcement Officers:

Foul Murder - The Emotional Drain - On Law-Enforcement Officers:

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Come on Issy, involvement in four murders, two attempted murders, that's up there with the worse criminals. Ned Kelly was a professional criminal from an early age, leader of an organised crime gang. My point is he never was a hero, as he has been portrayed. In fact, today I would expect Ned Kelly would get the same sentence as Murphy got, and in those days Murphy would have got the same sentence Kelly got, hanged, the law would treat them the same.
The difference is Kelly has been portrayed as a folk hero, Murphy will never be that.

Where is your (reliable) evidence on the guns?
Where is your (reliable) evidence on the body bags?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 February 2019 4:32:37 PM
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I don't believe anyone could deny, there was a depraved level of evil, deeply entrenched into the souls of the five COBBY killers viz. John TRAVIS (ringleader); Michael MURDOCH, & Michael, Leslie, and Gary MURPHY. I have very little knowledge of the KELLY Gang, other than reading a few brief outlines of Ned's exploits, in Newspapers.

Nevertheless, (I stand to be corrected), never have I read any accounts of crimes, occasioned against a helpless woman, anywhere near the brutality & ruthlessness that finally took the life of Ms. Anita COBBY? I again state, I was not part of that investigation either. That said, somehow I couldn't imagine for a moment, a murderer of the calibre of Ned KELLY would engage in such rank barbarism against a defenceless woman. I may well be wrong, but I don't think so?

There was only one crime that had eclipsed what was done to Anita COBBY? It was the slaughter of Virginia MORSE of Moree, in NSW. I was not involved in the investigation either, but I had quite a bit to do with the two perpetrators Alan BAKER & Kevin CRUMP. I'll not go over old ground. Other than to say, I would doubt very much, whether any Bushrangers of that time, would murder a woman with the same degree of viciousness as that which had terminated the lives of both, Mrs. MORSE & Ms. COBBY respectively There are indeed, monsters lurking among us, every day of our lives.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 28 February 2019 5:21:34 PM
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o sung wu

Its difficult to compare levels of depravity. You can be sure though that many men and women involved with ISIS are just as depraved if not more. And to think so many are still in our country. The way some of the Lebanese muslims treated aussie girls in Sydney in the early 2000's was atrocious.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 28 February 2019 5:27:11 PM
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Hi there RUNNER...

You're not wrong my friend, though I've seen more than my share of savage bashings orchestrated by Muslim men, it's not above them to inflict 'over the top' injuries to their victims. Among their favourite methods, is to put the old Julies MARLOW in, when the victim is unable to defend themselves. Another favored tactic is to align their victims mouth on the edge of the gutter, and then 'stomp' down on the back of the recipient's neck, inflicting massive injuries to; the mouth, teeth, jaw, and eye cavities. AKA the 'Lebanese Kiss'! Resulting in many months of Hospital admissions & treatment.

Please don't misunderstand me, RUNNER, I'm not in any way, singling out Muslims or Lebanese per se. It's just this group's usual pattern of violence - is quite closely aligned, with what I've just described herein. Thanks RUNNER.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 28 February 2019 7:54:20 PM
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Paul,

"Where is your (reliable) evidence on the guns?
Where is your (reliable) evidence on the body bags?"

Just Google the Kelly guns there's plenty on there, as for the number of 'real' Kelly guns, anyone can carve or burn a 'K' into a wooden grip.
Likewise "Cobb & Co" burned into shotgun stocks.

As you said earlier, they didn't have body bags back then; so no evidence for something that didn't exist.

Have a look at this
http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/long-sought-after-kelly-gang-gun-hid-rocky-112-yea/1632281/
now tell me why he would have preferred it to this,
http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-revolvers/1875-army-outlaw-revolver.html

The Remington and the more famous Colt of 1873 were available in Australia as were numerous other makes of revolving pistols.

I'd like to meet the bloke who bought Dan's pistol; I've got some gilt-edged shares in the Harbour Bridge and the Opera House that I'm willing to sell.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 28 February 2019 8:01:08 PM
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Not quite on the topic but relevant to the mentality of Law enforcement.

Reporter’s question:
“How can President Trump claim to represent all U.S citizens, regardless of sexual orientation, when he banned transgenders from joining the military? Isn't that discrimination?”

Congressman Trey Gowdy's response:
“Nobody has a right to serve in the Military. Nobody. What makes people think the Military is an equal opportunity employer? It is very far from it... and for good reasons. Let me cite a few.
“The Military uses prejudice regularly and consistently to deny citizens from joining for being too old or too young, too fat or too skinny, too tall or too short. Citizens are denied for having flat feet, or for missing or additional fingers.”
Clearly annoyed by the reporter's attempt to trap him with the question he went on to explain:
"By the way, poor eyesight will disqualify you, as well as bad teeth. Malnourished? Drug addiction? Bad back? Criminal history? Low IQ? Anxiety? Phobias? Hearing damage? Six arms? Hear voices in your head? Self-identification as a Unicorn? Need a special access ramp for your wheelchair? Can't run the required course in the required time? Can't do the required number of push-ups? Not really a ‘morning person’ and refuse to get out of bed before noon? All can be legitimate reasons for denial.
"The Military has one job: Winning War. Anything else is a distraction and a liability. Did someone just scream, ‘That isn't Fair?’ War is VERY unfair; there are no exceptions made for being special or challenged or socially wonderful.
“YOU must change yourself to meet Military standards... not the other way around. I say again: You don't change the Military... you must change yourself. The Military doesn't need to accommodate anyone with special issues. The Military needs to Win Wars.. and keep our Country safe... PERIOD!
“If any of your personal issues are a liability that detract from readiness or lethality.. ‘Thank you for applying and good luck in future endeavours’.
“Any other questions?"
Posted by individual, Thursday, 28 February 2019 10:06:29 PM
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