Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI, recounted a Justice Department plot to remove Donald Trump from office in a television interview that will air Sunday.

Previewing the next episode of '60 Minutes,' Scott Pelley, a correspondent for CBS, said Thursday that McCabe told him about a plan to approach Mike Pence, the Vice President of the United States, and ask him to invoke the 25th Amendment.

'There were meetings at the Justice Department in which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment,' Pelley reported on CBS 'This Morning' on Thursday.

The journalist said the conversation took place in the eight days between Comey's dismissal and the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel.

Trump met with the Russian ambassador the day after he ousted Comey, the former FBI director, and the Russian foreign minister at the White House.

His campaign, several of his associates, including his one-time National Security Advsior Michael Flynn, were under federal investigation for improper contacts during the election with Russia at the time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6704807/McCabe-says-Justice-Department-held-meetings-discuss-recruiting-Pence-25th-Amendment-push.html

http://www.blacklistednews.com/article/71058/mccabe-says-doj-discussed-recruiting-pence-for-a-push-to-remove.html

Hi Philip,

So ......... a 'conspiracy' - i.e. plans to invoke the law to have Trump removed - was not just real but quite justified with the information that the FBI had at the time ?

What with Manafort, etc., etc., having been found guilty of conspiring with the Russians, apparently on behalf of Trump and his business interests in Russia, would you say that MORE evidence has surfaced to justify that FBI 'conspiracy' rather than less ?

Try this: if Obama and his associates had been implicated in dealings with Russia along the same lines, would you dismiss any 'conspiracy' as 'fake news' ? Or would Karl Rove have wet himself in celebration of such a treasure trove of felonies ?

Cheers,

Joe

the unhinged pussy heads have no conspiracy. They straight out demonise, lie and misrepresent. Only the blind can't see that.

Quote "was not just real but quite justified with the information that the FBI had at the time ?"

The origin of the information was suspect.

Conspiracy. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
They did not have prima facie evidence.
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Nearly a year after their colleagues in the House reached a similar conclusion, the Senate Intel Committee said on Tuesday that it was preparing to conclude its investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia after finding - get this - no direct evidence of a conspiracy, according to NBC News.

The investigation is coming to a close after 2 years and more than 200 interviews. Senate Intel Committee Chairman Richard Burr said the decision to end the probe was made after the committee started running out of new questions to ask.

"If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don't have anything that would suggest there was collusion by the Trump campaign and Russia," said Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, in an interview with CBS News last week.

Burr was careful to note that more facts may yet be uncovered, but he also made clear that the investigation was nearing an end.
"We know we're getting to the bottom of the barrel because there're not new questions that we're searching for answers to," Burr said.

Hey Philip S,
Basically it was a soft coup by the deep state to remove a sitting President, no less.
But it's nothing we didn't already know anyway.

The end of the Russia probe is not the end of it for Trump.
They're just changing tactics, from here they will go after anyone that ever had anything to do with Trump;
And anything they find will be used as leverage for 'someone' to say Trump did 'something'.

Follow the investigation online...
http://www.youtube.com/user/georgwebb/videos

Quote "Basically it was a soft coup by the deep state to remove a sitting President, no less."

Too many think the politicians have all the power, but in this case the bureaucrats were the driving force, manipulated by the one who want owg.

Politicians come and go bureaucrats can make monumental mistakes and still survive most of the time.

anymore actors staging their own attacks by people wearing imaginary MAGA hats. The Democrats provided liars against Kavannaugh and are now staging fake attacks. When are these deranged pussy heads ever going to get over Hilary's defeat?

Loudmouth "What with Manafort, etc., etc., having been found guilty of conspiring with the Russians, apparently on behalf of Trump and his business interests in Russia, would you say that MORE evidence has surfaced to justify that FBI 'conspiracy' rather than less ? "

Care to expand on that?

From what I've seen Manafort's crimes were mostly related to actions while he wasn't working with Trump. Flynn wasn't considered to have lied by the agents who interviewed him. Cohen's crimes other than the process crimes related to the investigation were from what I've seen not related to the Trump Campaign.

I get the impression that the process crime charges are about putting pressure on people to flip on Trump. With the strong possibility that it's pressure to say what needs to be said to support an impeachment regardless of truth or otherwise.

Certainly plenty of evidence that others have told much more specific lies to investigators and congress without penalty.

Mostly what I've seen is that Trump has amongst his associates people I'd not like to have amongst my associates. Overall I'm surprised that given the level of scrutiny of Trump and his dealings conducted by congress, Muller, the FBA and the Media over the last two years they have not turned up evidence of actual criminal activity by him, I had thought he was dirtier than that. My perspective had been that he was the lesser of two evils compared to the Clinton's, looking back at the spectacular failure so far despite intense investigation to find any serious dirt on Trump I admit to being surprised.

US politics would be in a lot better place if the establishment was as determined to investigate wrong doing and punish it by others in power as they have been to do so with Trump's associates.

R0bert

Dear AC,

Why are you again providing links to certified nutjobs?

George Webb is a dangerous deluded fool who was responsible for shutting down part of a major port because of his dingbat conspiracy crap.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/us/port-dirty-bomb-south-carolina.html

Look I get that you love this stuff but I'm not sure that gives you licence to pollute up the thread with this nonsense.

Hey Steele Redux,
I think you're just advertising your own nuttiness, by parroting some 'story' you read.

You wanna know why?

- Because I watched the channel religiously and saw the story in regards to the Memphis Mersk saga at the Port of Charleston unfold on his daily videos and I know what happened; I know that the REAL story wasn't the one you read about.

To be honest with you I think it was a deliberate move by the deep state to pass info onto him which he was forced to act on - ie. alert authorities and thus fall into the trap of himself creating a story which would discredit him.

If that's really all you've got on George Webb, then I'm sorry because you need about 2 years of full-time catch up.

Here's one from about 2 years ago - less than a month after Trump was elected, and before his inauguration.

January 5th, 2017 Hillary Infiltrated the FBI With Andrew McCabe
http://youtu.be/TMdaCwEpCYk

And only now you figure out McCabe was trying to remove Trump?
You're all getting your news about 2 years too late...

What does George Webb say in the video at 3:28?
"...Enabling the coup".
(Whilst discussing McCabe with a picture of him)

This was over 2 years ago before Trump was even President.

And what did I say 4 comments ago?

"Basically it was a soft coup by the deep state to remove a sitting President, no less.
But it's nothing we didn't already know anyway."

It's you people that have been living like mushrooms;
- Kept in the dark and fed BS...

Do you want me to go and dig up the videos that pertain to the events at the Port of Charleston?
- Because I can if you want.

The best summary of where the failed coup attempt sits at the moment from the inestimable Victor Davis Hanson...

http://amgreatness.com/2019/02/17/autopsy-of-a-dead-coup/

and a follow up about the fun to be had over the next year or so...

http://lidblog.com/deep-state-coup-attempt/

Hey mhaze,
I read your linked articles, and I guess I have to agree with you.
It is probably the best summary I've read in regards to the last 2+ years.

It seems weird to me because I watched all the smaller parts of that investigation unfold day by day. To read both summaries in a few minutes reminds me of the long path it was seeing all that info come out.

- But there's heaps more he didn't mention.

One thing that should've been mentioned regards the media bias against Trump is that Obama provided the funding for it late in 2016.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-signs-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law

I think he must've just finished reading Rosiak's newly released book when he wrote the article.
http://www.amazon.com/Obstruction-Justice-National-Security-Democrats/dp/1621579433

Also, Luke Rosiak may have been the one to cover the media story and get the credit, but he didn't do all the hard work.
George Webb was the one at the coalface driving the investigation forward day in and day out before Trump won the Presidency.

Here's George reviewing Luke Rosiak's book for errors.
http://youtu.be/UzI4qUNJ64Q
Luke was way behind, riding on the back of George Webb's investigation.

Meanwhile...

A pretty good article. Y2K was a scam that came to an end because it could conclusively be shown to be wrong. But AGW and the ancillary renewable scams are different and will not come to an abrupt end. There's too much money involved. Even getting specific predictions and showing them to be wrong matters not at all. Twelve years ago we were told we had ten years to save the planet. That's obviously been shown to be wrong but they purveyors of the the one true faith merely move on and we are now told that we've got 12 years to save the planet. Hilariously many believe it.

Australia will continue down the path of closing fossil fuel plants and opening renewable plants...and costs to the consumer will continue to sky-rocket while jobs skedaddle. And the politicians and their like will continue to try to hide the cause and kick the solution down the road ie past the next election.

In that regard Snowy 2.0 has been the most successful power policy for decades. It won't do a damn bit of good in regards to supply or prices but it has mollified those who fret about their household costs since they've been convinced that our betters are doing something to resolve the cost problem. By the time it becomes obvious it was a feint, this and probably the next election will be in the rear-view mirror. It was designed to solve a political problem and its done it wonderfully well.

The article suggest we resolve the problem by getting rid of subsidies and letting the market work it out. But that won't happen. In an absolutely free market coal plants would pop-up all over but they'd be beset by lawfare and protest (see Adani) and thus no one will take the risk. At some point, when things become so dire that lies no longer work, the government will need to step in and build them themselves.

But don't expect to see that for at least a decade....or 12 years (grin).

oops...wrong thread

I see Bernie Sanders is running for President against Trump in 2020 with an agenda to make America a Socialist economy. The fact is 25% of the young Americans support socialism. The same economy as Venusalia and all other failed economies.

FBI Official Admits To Infiltrating Trump Campaign - Just Don't Call It Spying

A top FBI official admitted to Congressional investigators last year that the agency had contacts within the Trump campaign as part of operation "Crossfire Hurricane," which sounds a lot like FBI "informant" Stefan Halper - a former Oxford University professor who was paid over $1 million by the Obama Department of Defense between 2012 and 2018, with nearly half of it surrounding the 2016 US election.

According to portions of transcripts published on Tuesday by the Epoch Times of a Aug. 31, 2018 deposition by Trisha Anderson, the FBI relied on sources who "already had campaign contacts" in order to surveil the Trump team.

"To my knowledge, the FBI did not place anybody within a campaign but, rather, relied upon its network of sources, some of whom already had campaign contacts, including the source that has been discussed in the media at some length beyond Christopher Steele," said Anderson - who was the #2 attorney at the FBI's Office of General Counsel, and had extensive involvement with the Trump counterintelligence investigation.

Halper is reportedly a longtime CIA and FBI informant, and has been involved in US politics at the highest levels for decades, becoming George H.W. Bush's National Director for Policy Development during his presidential campaign. After Bush lost to Reagan, Halper worked as Reagan's Deputy Assistant Secretary of State - where he served under three different Secretaries.

The 74-year-old spook was enlisted by the FBI to befriend and spy on three members of the Trump campaign during the 2016 US election.

Halper received a DoD contract from the Obama administration for $411,575 - made in two payments, and had a start date of September 26, 2016 - three days after a September 23 Yahoo! News article by Michael Isikoff about Trump aide Carter Page, which used information fed to Isikoff by "pissgate" dossier creator Christopher Steele. The FBI would use the Yahoo! article along with the unverified "pissgate" dossier as supporting evidence in an FISA warrant application for Page.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/article/71191/fbi-official-admits-to-infiltrating-trump-campaign--just-dont-call-it.html

'The fact is 25% of the young Americans support socialism. The same economy as Venusalia and all other failed economies.'

yeah but nothing feels better than being a self righteous virtue signaller especially when you know inwardly you are so corrupt. That's the attraction to socialism. Look at the pussy head march and you get the drift.

Got to give Scum O' Morrison and his government the Wally Award for being the biggest dill brains on the planet. Whilst Scum O' thought it was a brilliant idea to show The Donald how tough the faithful sidekick little Australia could be with the Red Chinese when the bully boy Trump was trying to give China a black eye over trade. Whilst The Donald was shadow boxing with the Reds, Scum O' though he would show The Donald how loyal to the cause he could be, and bit the Chinese on the arse with the 5G network, he slapped a ban on the commie bastards!

That sure showed em', so Scum O' thought. As if China would be greatly perturbed by anything Australia done. Well blow me down the Chinese have band Australian coal ships from entering China. Shock horror, Morrison and co are in a spin, the Aussie dollar is in free fall, coal exports are shot, jobs are going, its a catastrophic situation. Oh my god what are we going to do as Morrison and co run around like chooks without their heads!

"BHP chief executive Andrew Mackenzie said while delays had been experienced in getting both metallurgical coal and thermal coal into China recently, he did not believe it was political.

Mr Mackenzie told an analyst and investor briefing earlier this week that all suppliers had been hit by delays at Chinese ports.

"There are a number of things happening in China relating to, how they plan, and moderate, if you like, imports versus their own domestic production," Mr Mackenzie said.

"I don't believe for one moment this is linked to some of the higher level issues of relationships between China and the rest of the world, and including with us."

or

http://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-02-22/china-s-australian-coal-ban-is-more-domestic-than-geopolitical

"Got to give Scum O' Morrison and his government the Wally Award for being the biggest dill brains on the planet. "

Not while Paul's around.

mhaze, you might fall for a few weasel words from some joker from the big end of town, trying to protect Morrison's arse, but it don't do much for me.

"However, all the gains made by AUD/USD on that release were erased and then some by reports suggesting that China would ban Australian coal imports at the key dock site of Dalian. This looked to be a clear sign of deteriorating trade relations between Australia and its major export customer." Daily FX, a most respected independent international financial observer.

mhaze are you one of the useful idiots who falls for the clap trap and stupidity of the Morrison government, looks like you are.

"you might fall for a few weasel words from some joker from the big end of town, trying to protect Morrison's arse, but it don't do much for me."

BHP's CEO is probably protecting the share price as well.
"Move on, nothing to see here!"

Paul,

You made assertions without the slightest evidence. Two events happened around the same time and you decided they are linked....without the slightest evidence that they are linked or the slightest effort to show how they are.

It was hot on Christmas Day therefore Christmas causes hot weather or hot weather causes Christmas. That's the level of your (for want of a more appropriate word) thinking.

I showed two completely separate pieces of evidence, neither of which was related to the government, that showed that two events you wanted to link were indeed utterly not linked.

And your response? Basically you assert that you want it to be true and therefore it is and that anyone who uses actual evidence to show otherwise must have fallen for the government's line.

And that you 'think' is intellectual discourse.

Its raining today and its Saturday..therefore rain causes Saturday. Anyone who thinks otherwise has simply fallen for the propaganda from the BOM.....or something.

So mhaze the fall in the Aussie dollar had nothing to do with the Chinese putting a hold on Australian coal. Morrison and co trying to act the little tough guy with the Chinese to suck up to the Yanks also had nothing to do with it as well.

News Flash; Australia needs Chinese trade far more than China needs to trade with Australia. There is a World oversupply of coal, China's domestic production of coal is way up, and frankly China could tell Australia to stick their coal where the sun don't shine, and it wouldn't cause them a problem.

Paul1405, Must be right he got his info from the dailymail, same one he says is full of rubbish.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6732387/China-mocks-Australians-concerns-decision-block-Australian-imports-mineral.html

China mocks Australians concerns over the decision to block Australian imports of the mineral - after the dollar plunged

China has responded to reports of an indefinite ban on Australian coal imports by mocking concerns over the decision and saying it's 'normal practice'.

A major Chinese port has reportedly banned imports of Australian coal amid tensions between the two nations over cyber-security and control in the Pacific.

In addition to the ban, customs at China's northern Dalian port will cap overall 2019 imports through its harbours at 12 million tonnes.

China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said customs assesses the quality of imported coal, analyses possible risks and examines it in accordance to laws and regulations.

Dear paul1405,

Sorry mate but have to call you out on this one I'm afraid.

You wrote;

"That sure showed em', so Scum O' thought. As if China would be greatly perturbed by anything Australia done. Well blow me down the Chinese have band Australian coal ships from entering China. Shock horror, Morrison and co are in a spin, the Aussie dollar is in free fall, coal exports are shot, jobs are going, its a catastrophic situation. Oh my god what are we going to do as Morrison and co run around like chooks without their heads!"

Why are you lamenting a reduction in Australia exporting a CO2 intensive fuel source? While Australia looks like romping in the Paris targets due to farseeing State governments our exports are not counted.

I get it that giving the other side a black eye is always alluring but perhaps prefacing it with some context might be a good idea.

Yes Steele, the truth is out the Red Chinese are really the Green Chinese and Lee Rhiannon is actually Xi Jinping in drag. And now we've got ships loads of coal everywhere, yep ships loads. Just this evening I tried to roast a couple of very dead rather putrid Murray Cod the Minister for the Environment Melissa Price sent me, in my electric oven by burning 20kgs of coal. Somewhat without success! The fire brigade arrived to douse the flames!

Scum O' has plan B. We have ships loads of dead fish from the Murray-Darling sitting off the coast of China, right now, waiting for the Chinese to come out and buy em'. Scum O' hopes to convince them to make ships loads of Sweet and Sour Fish with a side of Fried Coal. This will create 1.3 billion job in Australia over the next 3 years in the Aussie fish gutting industry should Scum O' and the gang be returned at the next election. The new slogan is 'Fish and Coal Together Creates Jobs!' He may even bring a lump of it into the Parliament for the members to try.

p/s Scum O' is always thinking of new and innovative ways to use Aussie coal. Steele have you picked up one of those very sheikh Coal Door Stoppers. How about a lump of Pet Coal for you, a variation on the pet rock idea. No, Scum O's on the job! Coal-Poms-Bathtubs, just thinking out loud.

"So mhaze the fall in the Aussie dollar had nothing to do with the Chinese putting a hold on Australian coal. "

Well no, the fall had everything to do with the scare over the delayed shipments. No one's denying that.

But that's entirely beside the point. You asserted, without the slightest evidence or even attempt at showing evidence, that the delay was due to our decision to exclude Chinese companies from the 5G network. I showed that that was not the case.

Sooooo, having been shown to have, yet again, gone down the garden path, you now try to change the subject. Dill or dishonest - its hard to decide.

The small fall in the dollar was caused by the delayed shipments. But the delayed shipments were caused by factors very different to what you asserted.

mhaze, the opinion of a vested interest namely BHP chief executive Andrew Mackenzie, carries little weight. "he did not believe it was political". Should we care what Mackenzie believes or don't believe.

// But the delayed shipments were caused by factors very different to what you asserted.// Where is your evidence? Are you a dill or dishonest its hard to decide. What I do know you are one of the useful idiots who hangs off every word of this incompetent government.

mhaze, why don't you get it through your thick skull that this is an OPINION forum, therefore all opinions are welcome, even yours. like the rest of the rabid right you like to think of your opinions as being fact. WHEN THEY ARE NOT!

Yes all opinions are welcome.

And its my opinion that opinions that aren't based on even a modicum of facts are little better than fairy-tales. And belief in fairy-tales, particularly when combined with a refusal to accept any contrary data leads inexorably to the firm but utterly erroneous view that there really are dwarves in the woods looking after abandoned princesses.

And many of your 'opinions' based on no data and often in direct contravention of all available data are merely fairy-tales that you choose to believe because the real world isn't the way you want it to be.

"the opinion of a vested interest namely BHP chief executive Andrew Mackenzie, carries little weight."

You'll note (well not you but someone interested in the truth) that I showed others who also pooh-pooed your assertions. You ignore them because you can't work out how to discredit them even at your woeful level of evidence.

"you are one of the useful idiots who hangs off every word of this incompetent government."

You'll note (well not you but someone interested in the truth) that I haven't mentioned the government in any of this 'debate'. I'm not trying to defend the government but to seek the truth. You on the other hand couldn't care less about the truth so long as you can use the fairy-tale to disparage the government.

mhaze, you offered up the opinion of BHP chief executive Andrew Mackenzie that "he did not believe it was political"
Could there be logical reason why Mackenzie should offer such an opinion. The answer is yes; one he has a vested interest in maintaining the BHP share price, very much dependent on continuing BHP coal sales to China. two he wants to protect the government as he sees a continuing Tory government in Canberra to be advantageous to BHP. These are two possible reason why Mackenzie would offer a biased opinion.

You have no evidence. I merely state the facts of the matter. Australian ships full of coal were prevented from entering a Chinese port, fact. With that news the Aussie dollar fell, fact. Morrison and co along with the gov of the Reserve Bank rushed to reassure financial markets there was no problem, fact.
From these facts, and given recent events in our relationship with China, I conclude our government is being stupid and endangering Australia's trade relationship with China, which we very much depend on, for no worthwhile purpose.

Paul,

"Could there be logical reason why Mackenzie should offer such an opinion."

If that was the only opinion I mentioned then putting a different construct on his views might be valid. But I did offer other opinions which supported his views but don't have obvious reasons for doing so. Its almost hilarious that you are assiduously avoiding even mentioning those other opinions.

Its also hilarious the way you are trying very hard to pretend that you didn't ascribe the Chinese actions to Australia's 5G decision. You do know that the internet is forever, don't you? You do know that others can easily scan up the page to see you putting it down to the 5G decision, don't you?

A piece under the heading Bloomberg Opinion is exactly that, an opinion. mhaze you can put up a hundred opinions, because they agree with your view does not make them evidence as you like to assert.