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Belly,
What you don't seem to want to accept is that participating in a National Service alters just about everything from mentality to health, to economy to commitment to Nation building.
Everyone benefits even those who don't believe in it. It reduces unemployment & crime rates.
Drugs would become a much reduced problem because of National Service participants becoming less & less like cattle.
Once you have a more responsible society it also becomes a more cohesive society.
Nation Service is desperately needed in Australia !
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 February 2019 1:25:21 PM
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http://globalnews.ca/news/4967561/measles-danger-deaths/?utm_source=Article&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014
Found the link while looking for some thing else it is confronting
indy in all truth I will never share you intense views on national service
It is not and never will be, a cure all
War time? maybe but as a tool for fixing things, some that are only in your mind? no thanks
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 February 2019 2:48:47 PM
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a tool for fixing things, some that are only in your mind?
Belly,
So, you think drug overdosing, welfare cheating, theft & break-ins, assaults, DUI deaths, unemployment etc are only in MY mind ?
Boy, have you got some growing up ahead of you !
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 February 2019 4:37:50 PM
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Dear individual,

There seems to be a bunch of Councilors here in Victoria who agree with you.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/south-east/casey-councillors-vote-in-favour-of-compulsory-military-service-to-help-curb-youth-unemployment-crime/news-story/7772705c453a2d7531a8fffd3e749065

However there is a stark reality at the other end for those who then go on to full military service;

"Veteran unemployment is at 30.2 per cent, more than five times the national average."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-12/what-to-do-about-veterans-unemployment/9538402

This disturbing statistic is one of the drivers for depression, substance abuse and suicide by returned soldiers.

So it appears deferring education and civilian work experience can be quite detrimental to the chances of a fully realised career.

However perhaps instead of compulsory national service the opportunity to participate in programs like those touted in the US.

"Investments in National Service programs such as AmeriCorps, VISTA, YouthBuild, and other youth corps programs deserve serious consideration as part of a national strategy to tackle unemployment, provide anti-poverty services, and strengthen our economy. These programs can prepare young adults for long-term employment opportunities in the public and private sector.

National service programs create full-time positions that are—in most cases—jointly paid for by public and private resources. These entry-level public service positions pay a poverty-level living allowance or slightly more, and they come with health-care benefits, sometimes child-care benefits, and the opportunity for Segal AmeriCorps Education Awards, which help recipients pay for higher education, educational training, or student loans. National service programs are not designed as long-term career positions, but these national service jobs have historically helped boost job creation by providing opportunities for difficult-to-employ youth and recent college graduates, while also building nonprofit organizations’ capacity to continue this important social service."
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/poverty/reports/2009/11/16/6910/national-service-and-youth-unemployment/

Unless of course you are wedded to the notion that they need a weapon in their hand.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 18 February 2019 5:06:12 PM
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Steele redux,
I am in favour of prevention rather than cure & that's why we need an education system instead of the Billy Goat show that are our present eduction institutions.
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 February 2019 7:30:31 PM
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The thread was intended to highlight a concern
Not about every thing that concerns us, we can all start threads
It was about the moral right of parents to refuse their children protection
Maybe it was also about that protection, not in my view, but the view of the anti vaxxers
I introduced those against blood donations, because in my view they use a moral reason, not every one agrees with
What then of those children, reading on the subject can be confronting
Some on turning 16, have got the inoculation parents denied them
What is this saying
Individual, is your view in fact saying you do not support the immunization to stop Polio,Cholera,and tens of mass killing illnesses?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 5:57:19 AM
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