Belly,

Just to clarify, my comments about complementary and alternative medicine were in response to Armchair Critic.

When I look at issues like vaccination, I do so on the basis of the scientific evidence, which for vaccination is overwhelmingly suggestive of benefit. The difference between what I define as modern medicine and alternative treatment is that modern medicine has been evaluated scientifically to show efficacy. On that basis aspirin is part of the set of modern medicine. I don't see the origin of a medicine as relevant, only the evaluation. The medicine I take for my psoriasis is also an industrial chemical used to make paint and glue among other things. What makes it a modern medicine is the scientific evaluation of its efficacy.

I hope this gives you some idea of my perspective.

Thanks Fester it does, small world! not going to try to spell it but I share your illness
Could laugh with you for hours about the cures I have tried
Not helping that I like to garden in my bare feet
Wish they had a shot for that
One day, just for the fun of it may start a link about so called cures, believe me some of them are way out there

Hey Fester,
Sorry for not responding earlier.

I wish I could find the link to that video again.
I'd rather you argued the merits of the videos content rather than the focus be on me for saying it; but I did say it without providing a link and I can see how my comment might be misconstrued as the opinion of a pro pseudo-science quack and I'll cop it.

I don't want people thinking I'm some Anti-Vaxx-extremist cross Anti-Modern-Medicine wack-job, so I'[ll outline my positions.

My official position is 'Whatever Works Best'.

I am NOT against the science of inoculation.
My issue relates to questions around their safety and effectiveness that contradicts the official narrative.
If there are harmful side-effects they aren't 100% safe.
If kids who've been inoculated can still catch the virus targeted then they aren't 100% effective.
Big-Pharma will play down any negative effects.
I just believe people should have a right to all the facts and if there is a risk of harm then it should be their right to choose.
- The issue you mentioned is certainly a technicality though.

If someone could give the TRUE facts so I can weigh up the amount of harm done to a population by not vaccinating at all against the total harm caused by side-effects (allergies and harm done by anaphylactic shock, autism, fitting changed personality etc. the whole truth) then I'd be in a better position to judge.
I'm also concerned about the large amount of shots at such young ages.
You should see the current schedule.

[Cont.]
Regards Medical Treatment - 'Whatever Works Best'

I'm genuinely pleased and glad that modern medicine has provided answers that improved your health and well-being and quality of life, and I support that whatever it is.
But for many people modern medicine hasn't yet discovered all the answers and many struggle finding the right medications, and doctors will try all different ones like their patients are lab-rats.

I'm not saying I support selling snake oil or the ideology.
- I'm just simply stating that in regards to good health etc.
Taking away what shouldn't be in the body and putting back what should be there doesn't necessarily seem like an illogical approach, whilst the drug-based way may sometimes create more problems than it fixes.

Look at these kids with ADD, I'm not sure the drugs they are giving them do them much good.
I support whatever works best.

Thanks, Belly.

Psoriasis is a bugger of an illness. Unfortunately I also have psoriatic arthritis that will deform joints if untreated. Thank goodness I have the public system to fall back on if ever my treatment fails(it has been working bloody well for me for over six years), unlike the pig's breakfast of a system in the US. So many tragic stories there and a load of shonks taking advantage of the opportunity. But the illness does give an idea of how people's beliefs are influenced by personal experience.

Armchair Critic,

On vaccination as a cause of autism, Andrew Wakefield's research was found to be fraudulent and the guy was struck off the medical register. Despite this he is doing very well financially from his anti-vax cult. That being said I have a friend and colleague with a family friend who has an autistic child. No political extremism at all, but no amount of evidence would convince her that the autism and vaccination weren't related.

As for the benefits vs risks, there are many parts of the world with unvaccinated populations to study. Pakistan and polio is a prominent example, not helped by allegations the CIA used health workers as a cover to search for Osama Bin Laden. Seventy odd murders of health care workers so far. Fortunately the anti-vaxers aren't as militant elsewhere.

Fester my main illness is the Australian male one, too set in my ways to tell my doctor every thing
Been a tough old roster all my life but walking sees me need a rest after about 50 meters bones not breathing
In fact resting now after four wheel barrows of garden mix 4 to go
AC very much like you I use some natural therapy stuff
Bet you never used sump oil and kero on your feet!