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Anti Vaxx activists

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not even close to understanding what drove you in that post
Belly,
Why am I not surprised !
To make it more understandable for you I'll try this explanation. More people depending on others equals more resentment.
You're one of those whom I offered to contribute $ 5 in every weekly wage & pension towards a program to once & for all make a real start to put a severe dent into poverty. Haven't heard anything on that from you as yet.
With our $5 each we could accumulate sufficient funding to produce helpful commodities to be sent to those who think they'll need more children to look after them in old age. This would be a start to population/birth control/prevention. Please don't ask me to explain that again also.
Modern medicine keeps more people alive for longer but not at their expense. Medical waste is one of the worst type of waste produced so, we have more & longer living people with an increased amount of really bad waste, all of which needs to be paid for taxpayers.
The time has well & truly come to make people responsible for their indiscriminate breeding at the expense of others. Fewer children born equals fewer children starving to death equals healthier children/people. All that's needed is sterilisation after two children. Even runner shouldn't have a problem but more than likely wasted sperm will still be murder in his opinion.
Did he ever call it murder when he was wizzing the odd one through the knuckles ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 17 February 2019 1:13:50 PM
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no even close to thinking that was worth replying to indy
However even you, well maybe, would find no fault with vaccine that stopped Cholera
That stalled Polio, that may one day kill Cancer
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 February 2019 6:24:38 AM
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My problem with medical problem solving is that by solving one problem they create two more.
Whenever a new remedy is discovered to prolong life, they need to find an answer to population growth. I can't think of another non-violent method other than pregnancy prevention.
The real problem is now that the Pill has not resulted in lower population growth, it has result in a massive growth in immorality. Thousands of children die every day in countries that do not have pregnancy prevention & in countries where this option is available to all it has become a National social suicide.
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 February 2019 8:38:39 AM
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This is a really interesting issue and goes to the heart of how we view ourselves.

It is not surprising that the US is the wellspring of the antivax movement. Possibly the most religious nation in the Western world and arguably the most afflicted by conspiracy theorists, mistrust of 'big' government and the enshrinement of individual over community rights.

As I have said to the antivaxxers in my extended family, I respect your right not to vaccinate your children. I agree there is a very small risk of an averse reaction to vaccinations. Further, in a community which has a high uptake of vaccinations there may well be an argument that protection from a strong herd immunity is sufficient to allow that right to be exercised with very low risk to an individual's child. However I make it very clear that people who choose to sponge off those who vaccinated (and thus exposed their own children to complications) should be very grateful to the rest of us who also saw the communal benefit in doing so.

I did have an amusing exchange with one antivax mother who when I asked her if her child came in from playing with a rusty nail in their foot would they take them to get a tetanus shot she said of course because it wasn't a vaccination. When I explained that is most certainly is a vaccine she obfuscated at length. The conclusion of course is if her child was in direct danger of contracting some disease and no longer was served by a communal herd immunity then her stance on vaccinations would be out the window.

Her grandmother of course is aghast as she had experienced children going to hospital with hooping cough and not returning to neighbouring houses, of polio afflicted children trapped in iron lungs of with calipers on their legs in the playground.

So in my mind antivaxxers should accept with good grace every measure that those in the wider community use to attempt to mitigate this selfish behaviour.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 18 February 2019 10:19:54 AM
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Steele Redux,
The very same principle can be applied to National Service ! Don't contribute, don't claim any benefit that comes from the service !
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:54:04 AM
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Steele Redux well said indy? well you got your national service
What if we did have national service
What of the immunization those youths get?
The issue remains vaccination not what the neighbor has hanging on the cloths line
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:21:32 PM
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