The proponents of this renewable & unreliable energy are at the forefront of not giving up the convenience of coal powered commodities !

Bloody hell if you lot were around when the decisions about the Snow River Hydro Scheme were being first floated you would have slammed the hell out of that too.

Too Green! Too unreliable! What if the rain doesn't fall? Too expensive! Coal is king forever!

What a bunch of old fossilised farts. The world in moving on leaving you and your uninspiring vision for our future behind.

And thank goodness for that.

It has taken SteeleRedux a working week to come up with the vital contribution “old fossilised farts”.

Some of us were around when the Snowy Scheme was started. That's why we know more than SR does about everything. Experience beats teenage rants and abuse any day.

Take one example of an ammonia plant, the one that works efficiently and economically using the Haber process, not the unreliable junk that BS wants to waste a thousand million dollars of taxpayers hard earned money on. With wonderful green energy it is lucky to work for six to eight hours a day, so for the other sixteen to eighteen hours it sits idle. Will a company spend money building up a plant in Australia under these circumstances, or will it build the plant in a country with cheap and reliable 24/7 coal fired power? If this ruinous ideology continues to dictate policy it's "Venezuela here we come!".

We still have not heard how farm machinery, trains, trucks, overseas freight, and cruise ships are to be fuelled. It appears they haven't got a clue how to fuel these without producing CO2.

Steelie, what form of argument is this, putting the SMS on par with the 100% renewables fantasy and lumping critics with some confected connection?

Surely you've got more in your quiver than that. Tell us where in the world intermittent renewables aren't jacking up the price to consumers (while their cost is falling!) and where they're bringing down emissions significantly (don't forget the 100% fossil-fuelled backup needed, or very expensive batteries).

You and the other chap here spouting the superiority of renewables continue a long line of fantasists. https://tinyurl.com/y7yjp463 It takes more than a vivid imagination to solve the climate problem.