Only a few days ago the left was linking the murder of Aiia Maasarwe with toxic masculinity. Now that the perpetrator appears to be aboriginal and an activist to boot it is all about his poor mental health and there is no longer a murmur of toxic masculinity. Apparently his +ve racial identity status trumps his negative male identity status.

My opinion is that it is definitely about poor mental health as it is for the majority of prison inmates and has little to do with toxic masculinity. I am all in favour of locking up douche bags that harm women and children, but don't ask me to feel collective guilt because I have been arbitrarily lumped into a gender identity group by ideologues that know nothing about me.

I was wondering how long it'd take the Leftist Media to draw attention to the perpetrator's racial/ethinic background.
To me his complexion doesn't look modern Australian Aboriginal, to me he appears somewhat too dark skinned unless he is not an urban Aborigine.
I feel sorry for those who are left with the consequences of his deed, parents of both sides in particular.
If I had my way he wouldn't have been able to do what he did because aged 20 he would have been within the confines of a National Service facility & the poor, beautiful young woman could still be alive.
All those against the instilling of discipline & respect are getting quite a lot of blood on their hands lately.

If this murdering, rapist creep is mentally ill, he is just one more example of the slack arse 'experts' conning dumb politicians into releasing lunatics from institutions and allowing them to roam the streets. The tyranny of experts is our biggest problem, after the Far Left and the feminazis who want to blame everything on decent men because they hate them.

This poor girl has been identified as an Israeli, then and Arab Israeli, then a Palestinian. Our dirtbag MSM are more interest in identity politics than they are in tragedy and the embarrassing number of our people who kill innocent young visitors.

How long before they make this guy the victim. I mean an aboriginal man murdering a Jew.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Mate the victim here is overwhelmingly the poor lass who had her life brutally taken in a horrific fashion.

My sympathies for your concocted victimhood are exactly zero.

A low act, not unusual for the very lost very right
The murderer is pure filth, nothing less than never to be released will do
He happens to be Aboriginal, but race or social background is not a reason
low act
well in truth good men an women are grief stricken by the whole event
finding a racist, or even worse a link to one side of politics questions SM deeply

Why have we stopped talking
By the way the wonderful lass was Arab living in Jewish land
But me no buts, even if the filth is insane he should never walk free again
If not bring back the death penalty
KNOW even us so called lefty's hate him, do not trust our system of justice or law makers
IF we want to protect women nothing but never walk free is near enough
Governments must forget the killers childhood and act to protect women

Belly,
Are you still against a National Service after this ?

Sorry, I'm lost....

What do 'Gillette razors' have to do with any of this? It's just that they're mentioned in the title, but the reports I've seen on this case make no mention of them.

@Tony

Gillette have produced an advertisement that encourages men to stand up against toxic masculinity- sexual harrassment, violence etc. Gillette and a number of feminist commentators have trolled the men's movement, there have been a number of opinion pieces and Gillette have gotton alot of free publicity.

Many of these opinion pieces suggested that the grub responsible for the tragic murder in Melbourne was guided by a broader pattern of sexism that he grew up around (the patriarcy theory). When it was discovered that he was not white, the same people suddenly changed their view and argued that the murderer wasn't affected by attitudes and values in his community.

There is a clear double standard on display.

//Many of these opinion pieces suggested...//

Ahhh... see, there's your problem right there. Anybody who needs to read opinion pieces to be told how they should feel about rape is clearly not to be trusted. Rape's bad, mmmkay.

One feminist idiot used the occasion to pose with a shopping trolley bearing a placard saying 'Man Free Tram Zone. Irrelevant and stupid? Of course. But, as only 19% of women identify as feminists, those pathetically few bimbos have to milk every situation for all they are worth. They demonstrate a total lack of feeling for the murder victim and her family, particularly the grieving father, a man.

ttbn,
You'll find that these demonstrators are just insipid Leftists who take up & therefore waste much needed seating space in education facilities !

Individual,

They also get a lot of attention. It's a pity the majority is too complacent to make a din, even occasionally.

I wonder where we could find a journalist who could ask these demon-strators real questions ?

We need more than ever before what feminist call 'toxic' masculinity. Men that would lead and serve their families and women that would support their men. All other models produce the violence we see today. Most of these dumb sheilas marching can't see that they as much part of the problem as anyone else. They demand their 'rights' to uncensored porn, participate in endless immoral relationships, defend drug taking and then wonder why we have the murders we do. Certainly a dumbed down lot.

SR,

You have unerringly managed to concocked it up again. Where have I claimed victimhood?

While I feel sorry for the Israeli girl that was killed and her family, I take some perverse pleasure in watching the left whinge media twisting in the wind as they try to juggle the identity/oppression statuses of the killer and victim while still staying PC after one holy cow kills another.

The reality is that the victim is an innocent that has been brutalized and the killer is a monster that should spend the next 50 years behind bars being buggered by psychotic cellmate.

P.S.

With regards the nauseating virtue signalling by Gillette, I can only assume that they have discovered that there is more money targeting hairy feminists with pink razors at twice the price. Young men are now in the market for beard products for their pretty beards and anyone with a smidgen of testosterone is changing suppliers.

While I would like to kick Gillette in the soft space where their gonads used to reside, sadly having used electric razors all my life I cannot withdraw my custom.

I think the discussion on the accused person should just stop. There will be a trial with evidence before a jury and they can decide. All these heart felt comments will not change anything of this terrible story.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Pigs arse mate.

You wrote;

“I am all in favour of locking up douche bags that harm women and children, but don't ask me to feel collective guilt because I have been arbitrarily lumped into a gender identity group by ideologues that know nothing about me.”

So lots of talking about yourself. In this single sentence it went from 'I' to 'me' to 'I' and back again to 'me'.

Mate this isn't about you and your hurt feelings. A girl lies dead and at the top of your list of things to be upset about is a Gillette ad?

Now really that is bloody toxic behavior. Grow up.

a trial with evidence before a jury and they can decide.
Jbowyer,
That's what I'm afraid of. So many of them have failed us in the past that we really can't take any comfort in their decisions anymore.

Individual I suggest you visit our Law Courts. I find it very instructive personally. I have seen Magistrates and Judges giving very good judgements and juries paying attention. Juries hear the whole case and are properly directed by a judge. I think we can both leave this in the hands of our fellow citizens sitting on juries.
Now if you had said about our vile media with their partisan views then I would have certainly agreed with you. To find a more self-centred, vacuous bunch of illiterate bimbo's and himbo's you would really have to search.

I remain convinced this thread is in poor taste
The murder stands not as a measure of toxic masculinity but the act of a man, color of no interest, who is subhuman
damning SM

I remain convinced this thread is in poor taste
Belly,
I agree, I participate in threads for one reason only & that is to offer a different view with the view that some ideas could possibly sway people to change their views or ways for the betterment of our society. Far too many disagree with trying to instil a different mentality because it may impact in a miniscule way as they may have to turn their greed dial back a notch or two. It seems to me that too many Australians are not interested in the welfare of this Nation, only how much they can make from it. An extremely unhealthy & poor mentality indeed. We have seen what it did to our manufacturing industry & our standard of higher education. Oh yeah, everyone's a patriot at the slightest criticism but ask them to do their bit for the Nation than the ugly head of greed appears over the fence. Not actually having a culture is probably one of the drivers. The rejection of a National Service is the strongest indicator. As a 20 year old Codey Herrmann should have been in some National Service facility & fast asleep from the day's activities instead of on the streets as are too many others. I bet the civil libertarians will fight tooth & nail to prevent on disciplining the young & vulnerable & so the dreadful situation will deteriorate further.

This thread helps underline the out-of-control feminism, and the blatant use by that miserable group of a young woman's murder to further their hatred of all men, a very small number of whom kill or harm women no matter what the vicious feminists say about them.

I would like to see these misandrists explain why they say nothing about such facts as 52% of child murders being committed by women, usually mothers. And, how about the murder of unborn children to suit their immoral lifestyles?

Steele,

Your ability to cock it up is legendary.

Considering that my thread was about left whinge harpies and frightbats making political hay from the tragic death of the Israeli student, your criticism is particularly moronic. For example:

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/men-of-australia-it-s-time-to-pick-your-side-20190117-p50rz7.html

Secondly, as this is a website for expressing opinions the use of the singular pronoun is expected. Your inability to differentiate between irritation/opinion and hurt feelings is a measure of your incompetence not mine.

Belly,

Your point is exactly mine. The murder was committed by a mentally ill individual and I assume that you like me feel no collective guilt because you are a man, and that unlike Steele, you don't feel like having a good cry.

Told you first post I agree
However see posts trying to make it an anti feminist thread
Lock the murderer away for ever
but it is not a male v female thread
it is for some but says more about them

//The murder was committed by a mentally ill individual//

And the guilt for the crimes of mentally ill individuals shouldn't be shared collectively unless they're mentally ill Muslim individuals.

Posted by Toni Lavis- And the guilt for the crimes of mentally ill individuals shouldn't be shared collectively unless they're mentally ill Muslim individuals.

Answer- Yes I agree with Toni Lavis that perhaps the concept of collective punishment should be reviewed in the modern context. But I'm not sure that taking away the reward of citizenship or residency for example based on ethnicity can be considered collective punishment. Maybe I need to review the UN specification (not that I trust in its legitimacy). Police profile people to investigate crime- is this a form of collective punishment? Most would agree to solve problems it's necessary to classify phenomena based on recognizable attributes- maybe the communists don't want to solve social problems- maybe they just want the world to burn. I value traditional small communities- I want them safe and stable and having stable families and people- I want to put out the fires

Belly it wasn't Shadow Minister or anyone else that was trying to make the thread into feminist discussion the Sydney Morning Herald article seems to have made it into a "sex war"- see the link...

men-of-australia-it-s-time-to-pick-your-side-20190117

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/men-of-australia-it-s-time-to-pick-your-side-20190117-p50rz7.html

I remember some poor 22 year old female Korean student killed in Brisbane- didn't seem to have the same political baggage.

Shadow Minister- Thanks for highlighting the vulgarity of the communist main stream media.

Writer of the article...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementine_Ford_(writer)

Canem Malum,
Impressive ! Also rather modest not to publicise her best selling achievement.