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Saltbush Club's 10 Reasons To Get Out Of The Paris Agreement.

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1. The science is NOT settled - hundreds of scientists in Australia and thousands more throughout the world are sceptical of the theory that human production of carbon dioxide is driving dangerous global warming. And the 102 computerised climate models have always predicted more warming than has occurred. (They got it right once, 39 years ago.)

2. There is no unusual global warming. Since the last ice age ended there have been warm eras hotter than today’s modern warming. The endless procession of scare campaigns about cooling, warming, ice melting, sea levels, ocean acidity, cyclones and droughts have all proved false.

3. Carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant – it is an invisible natural gas that supplies the whole food chain. More carbon dioxide is beneficial to the biosphere.

4. The populous world nations are unlikely to curb their CO2 emissions – China, India, Russia, Brazil, USA, Japan, SE Asia, Indonesia, Africa and the Arab world will ignore Paris limits.

5. Despite 20 years of favourable promotion, subsidies, taxes, targets and propaganda the contribution of the intermittent energy producers has been a trivial 3%.

6. Australian energy policies are making electricity more costly and less reliable, hurting consumers and driving industry off-shore.

7. With no nuclear power, no geothermal power, limited hydro potential and increasing barriers to gas exploration, Australia has few options except coal for cheap reliable grid power, and oil products for transport.

8. With a huge continent, a small population and heavy reliance on exports, each Australian will be heavily penalised by the Paris Agreement for the emissions associated with exports consumed by others.

9. Compliance with the Paris Agreement will destroy industries and jobs, encourage bureaucracy and transfer controls and money a to affiliates of the United Nations.

10.Should the world experience even modest cooling in the decades ahead Australia will urgently need increased supply of reliable power for homes and industry and the global atmosphere will need more carbon dioxide plant food.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 3:39:29 PM
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The above has been slightly edited to 'fit'. The original, with graphics, can be sent in Catallaxy Files January 15th.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 January 2019 8:09:52 AM
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Add to that.

Despite a 68 - year gap in data from 1791 to 1859, we conclude that there has been NO significant change in Max and Min temperature trends at the Sydney Observatory station for at least a period of 226 years, from 1788 to 2018.

http://saltbushclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/comparison-of-first-fleet-and-modern-temperatures.pdf

References and Citations
Gergis, J., Karoly, D.J., & Allan, R.J., 2009: A climate reconstruction of Sydney Cove, New South
Wales, using weather journal and documentary data, 1788

1791. Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Journal 58, pp. 83-98
McAfee, R.J., 1981 Dawes’s Meteorological Journal: Historical Note, Australian Bureau of Meteorology No. 2. Canberra, Aust. Government Publishing Service
McAfee, R.J., 2010 Discovering Australia’s first weather record : S.E.A.R.C.H, 4 March 2010

Compiled by Dr Geoff Derrick
G M Derrick Geology
Brisbane, Australia
7 .1.2019
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Amazing how these records can be countered by this asinine statement.

Belly Quote "this mornings Sydney Morning Herald Its advice yesterday the hottest 15 places on earth all took place in Australia
Not going out side until after 6, 5 pm eastern standard time
Much work to do but 38 on my veranda 30 inside
No science needed here just walk out the door"

Australia can save Billions of dollars get rid of all scientists, BOM etc, we can get Belly to walk outside and tell us everything "No science needed"
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 17 January 2019 1:09:44 PM
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Belly can't remember that he said he wouldn't return to a particular thread, let alone the very similar high temperatures we experience every summer in Australia. He is a very useful idiot indeed for the mass hysteria initiated by the climate frauds.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 January 2019 1:27:37 PM
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Just lifted this from Quadrant Online:

"Funnily enough, global cooling is again on the agenda backed up by some science on solar cycles and past climate events like the “little ice age”. The Arctic ice refuses to die even though the climate change boosters have been giving it another year to disappear every year for the last 15 years. Greenland is amassing ice, glaciers are growing and Europe and the USA are enduring horrifically cold winters with “record” snow. This is apparently caused by carbon dioxide. The Great Barrier Reef is OK and Australian summer temperatures are normal despite all the “scientists” telling us they are not."
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 January 2019 1:38:29 PM
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Dear Philip S,

You wrote;

“Amazing how these records can be countered by this asinine statement”.

Firstly Belly was not looking to counter 'these records'. You only just posted them.

To the quote you have grandly supplied;

“Despite a 68 - year gap in data from 1791 to 1859, we conclude that there has been NO significant change in Max and Min temperature trends at the Sydney Observatory station for at least a period of 226 years, from 1788 to 2018.”

Why did you reference Gergis, Karoly, & Allan when the quote was from Geoff Derrick who put together a clearly amateurish document (it couldn't be called a paper by any stretch of the imagination)? A poor propaganda piece by a retired geologist, (a profession made up of more than its fair share of climate skeptics) as the sole author, yet he interestingly refers to himself as 'we'.

So what do Gergis, Karoly, & Allan really say about comparing the two sets of data?

“The ranges of daily extremes in temperature and MSLP from the Dawes data compare well with those from the modern observations for all seasons, except for Tmax in summer, when Dawes’s data are likely to slightly overestimate the highest maximum temperatures due to inadequate thermometer exposure. These results suggest that the record is useful for examining relative (rather than absolute) climate variations experienced during the first years of European settlement in Australia.”
http://minerva-access.unimelb.edu.au/bitstream/handle/11343/32770/289363_A%20climate%20reconstruction_Aust%20Met%20and%20Ocean%20Jour.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

'Bugger that' thought your geologist, 'I'm going to quote from other sections of their work but leave that out completely. Instead I will boldly make the claim that “we conclude that there has been NO significant change in Max and Min temperature trends at the Sydney Observatory station for at least a period of 226 years” even though it can't be sustained'

'And blokes like Philip S will faithfully regurgitate my anti GW rantings as fact because that is what useful 'idiots' are for.'

Come on young fella its happened again hasn't it. Caught once again with your pants down. Time to step and attempt to do this stuff properly.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 17 January 2019 2:45:37 PM
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