don't forget ttbn Kevin Rudd stated he was a fiscal conservative and that gw was the biggest moral challenge the world faces. You can't deal with this massive fraud with facts. Once people were embarrassed when they had egg all over their face. Instead now they dig in calling white black a straight gay. With no moral conscience the vast majority of those who hold to these dogmas are god deniers with no moral compass or reasoning capacity.

great post, I like this info session.

"So what do Gergis, Karoly, & Allan really say about comparing the two sets of data? "

Gergis is an example of all that's wrong with climate science.

Her 2012 paper was billed as Australia's hockey stick. Laughably it showed things like the average temperature in Australia around 2000 was a whole 0.09c higher than that in the mid 13th century. Her reconstruction had so few data points that used Fiji as a proxy for Sydney. Still, the press and the alarmist community accepted her 'findings' as further proof that we're all gunna die.

THEN...
the fellas at Climate audit decided to have a look at the methodology of what seemed to be a pretty shonky piece of work. And, wonder of wonders, they found a monumental error in the maths in the paper such that all the findings were utterly refuted. Because Climate Audit is an open community, everyone could see the error as soon as it was identified - including Gergis, Karoly etc.

But even more astonishing (chuckle!) Karoly then announced that indeed he and Gergis had found the same error just BEFORE Climate Audit. What are the chances, eh! A paper two years in the making where they'd had it checked by ten authors, who knows how many peer-reviewers and editors etc and they happened to stumble on the error just before their critics even though they didn't mention it 'til after their critics.

As usual, the alarmist community bought this unbelievable story. The paper was withdrawn, but most media who'd hyped the original claims didn't bother to tell their readers of the error. Big surprise!

They claimed the error was a mere typo and that they'd release the paper asap. But fixing the typo took 4 years!

So finally the adjusted paper, which looked nothing like the original, was quietly released. And guess what...no hockey stick.

And the usual suspects pretended not to notice.

Oh and Gergis, who'd made the error (or was it?) managed to play the damsel-in-distress card and demanded that those nasty men stop pointing out her errors.

Behold..this is called science.

SteeleRedux Quote "And blokes like Philip S will faithfully regurgitate my anti GW rantings as fact because that is what useful 'idiots' are for"

Please show me where this has been done?

If not like usual you speak lies.

Dear mhaze,

Now you see this is the difference between us.

I provide links. I could go and toil through google searches but I've already had to do that to pull apart Philip S's contribution, and even he had the decency to provide at least one link.

So how about you shoot a couple over that support your contentions and I will have a look. Until then all they are is unsubstantiated guff.

Dear Philip S,

You asked;

“Please show me where this has been done?”

Come on young chap, you know perfectly well you reproduced Mr Derrick's rubbish quote. If I must here it is again;

“Despite a 68 - year gap in data from 1791 to 1859, we conclude that there has been NO significant change in Max and Min temperature trends at the Sydney Observatory station for at least a period of 226 years, from 1788 to 2018.”

For you to be claiming you didn't just shows the lengths of deep unmitigated dishonesty you are willing to engage in when it comes to GW.

You do understand what he has tried to do here don't you? Taken just 3 years worth of data over 200 years ago and correlated it to data taken at a different site, started nearly 70 years later with different instruments to pull some amazing conclusion out of his arse. No reputable climate scientist or even plain scientist would have a bar of such nonsense and neither should you have.

Ice cores taken from the Antarctic have revealed climate conditions going back 42,000 years. Today's temperatures are the same at their peaks as they were throughout history.

Climate change is cyclic. People have not changed that process with beneficial carbon dioxide, and they have not caused climate change. You won't find this in the Australian MSM.