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Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 14 December 2018 8:46:58 PM
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Another one today!
Climate Change is Creating Dangerous Hybrid Puffer Fish. As I said, you couldn't make this garbage up. Well you couldn't unless you were an academic desperate for a grant. What will it take for our useful idiots to realise they are being scammed? Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:08:20 PM
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I must admit there are some interesting stories in the media about climate change. Sadly I haven't the time to sort out the signal from the noise.
In order for the Earth to heat up - energy in > energy out. Simple. The earth gets its energy from the Sun and from radioactive fission. "At the upper reaches of our atmosphere, the energy density of solar radiation is approximately 1,368 W/m2 (watts per square meter)." So EnergyIn/time = 1368 x Cross Sectional Area of the Earth (pi x 6000^3^2) Joules/second By monitoring the Sun it's possible to calculate the radiation hitting the Earth over time. By monitoring the Earth it's possible to calculate the radiation leaving the Earth. If you subtract the EnergyIn - EnergyOut you can calculate if the Earth is retaining Energy from the Sun. Heat energy from radioactive sources appear to be very small compared with the energy from the Sun. See below... http://earthsky.org/earth/what-is-the-source-of-the-heat-in-the-earths-interior while the heat energy produced inside Earth is enormous, it’s some 5,000 times less powerful than what Earth receives from the sun. I'm not sure if this is the way that Scientists calculate these things but it's the way I would do it Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 15 December 2018 1:46:56 AM
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Philip, thanks for the heads up.
Your article you refer to is exactly the one I speak of. I am just relieved that you have made reference to it so I don't have to argue with the usual bunch of clowns as to the validity and then the origin of my comments. You have given me the backing always asked of me from the know-nothings of the world and in particular those here on OLO. This should be another rather large nail in the coffins of the CC clowns Thanks. Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 15 December 2018 2:08:28 AM
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On a slightly different note:
SteeleRedux a little while back was all gung-ho that Trump had to pay Elizabeth Warren on a bet because she'd proven that she was an Indian. Today Fauxacontas admitted that she wasn't "a person of color". Oh dear, what to do when the facts don't match what you soooooooo want to be true. Ignore the facts, obviously. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 15 December 2018 8:39:45 AM
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Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 14 December 2018 9:25:55 AM
CM, I don't understand your last paragraph and how it fits in with the preceding points. Can you elaborate on, 'there are too many people'? Or what do you mean by this? Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 14 December 2018 8:39:31 AM The "left liberals/ labor/ greens" won't encourage population control and responsible culture the "right liberals/ free traders" won't admit to climate change- world population is the problem. The "left liberals" won't acknowledge that there is no good solution to energy. Elon Musk says that we have to solve the sustainable energy conundrum- we haven't yet... Australia should develop a nuclear industry for defense... and energy. There are too many people. Comment1- "left liberals/ labor/ greens" won't encourage population control and responsible culture. The "left liberals" won't acknowledge that there is no good solution to energy. Meaning1- If people are the cause of loss of habitat, environmental damage, etc. If the Labor party supports policy to increase Australia's population and doesn't encourage high population countries to reduce their populations to levels that balance the environment with mans activities. A responsible culture/ conservative culture is one that takes responsibility and controls their actions- it's difficult to get a liberal culture to act responsibly perhaps- as freedom takes primacy over stability and sustainability by definition. A liberal culture is not free when it is controlled. A "free" culture tends to be overwhelming of those unable to speak- it tries to be too smart for its own good- in the end just creates a new privileged class- that privileges itself over the environment. The "left liberals" won't acknowledge that there is no good solution to energy- if there is no good solution to energy then they can't blame the businesses- the problem then reverts to the problem of trying to control the behavior of the population- but they believe in Social Libertarianism- raison d'être. Comment3- Australia should develop a nuclear industry for defense... and energy. Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 15 December 2018 9:56:49 AM
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-Well truthfully I don't really have a choice;
I hold myself accountable to the same rules that I hold others to
The only way to get to the truth is to separate arguments that do hold merit from those that don't.
And so: Prove me wrong on merit and I will concede, and you'll earn my respect.
I'm not going to get angry and try and wiggle out of it if someone proves their argument fair and square.
I did say Merkel was 'gone' and this was incorrect in the way any reasonable person would take it.
I never fight to win when I'm already proven wrong.
It's easier to just accept the error, concede the point and move on.
- Plus it's a small lesson and reminder to stay true to facts, and I think it just makes one look more stupid to continue to argue from a proven false position;
- But that's just me -
What I'd actually seen prior to commenting was a short clip showing Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer elected head of the CDU and being congratulated and embraced by Angela Merkel, and that's certainly not the same as what I related in my comment.
I was wrong and misinformed the forum, and deserved to be called on my error.
It's ok, no real harm done.