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Indigenous University Students in Indigenous-focussed and Mainstream Courses

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Joe, before you run off too far to the left, ttbn has a point.
It may be a little veiled, but has anyone given thought to the fact that if we are going to admit to failures of 'certain' students to come up to scratch, might just be as simple as a lack of proficiency of 'english'.
It seems possible that if you don't have a full grasp of a language, any language, it cannot be possible to understand, in detail, whaat is being taught, and so they struggle.
It may also have something to do with why it is that foreign workers are not always reckognised for their qualifications in Australia.
The standing joke given as the reason, is that their education does not come up to Australian standards, therefore neither does their degree, and therefore their qualification to the same job in Australia.
Gee we must have the smartest people in the world here.
Well I tell you what if OLO is any guide, I'd say we're in trouble.
Just the fact that the uni's are so left, is enough to ring alarm bells.
It appears we are being run by children, according to a news article last night.
We see these kids running around making a lot of noise, but making no real sense just repeating what some lefty loony teachers would have groomed them to say.
People these are children, remember the tried and true saying?
'They should be seen NOT heard'!
That's how desperate and way off the margins the left are these days.
Unstable and irrelevant, are two words that come quickly to mind.
And just to punctuate this point, the FACT that there are NO ABO's at uni these days, just adds to the whole derailment of the loony lefties and their fanciful ideals and beliefs.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 1 December 2018 11:01:32 AM
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ALTRAV and ttbn,

You really don't get it do you, that, that does not conform to your ideal social norms, which are mostly of the 19th Century protestant concept of material usefulness are seen as worthless. You see nothing in alternative abstract non material principles, those things which you cannot quantify in dollar terms. Where is your respect for those that are "not you", people that are different, and embrace their own alternatives values, like their values you also see such people as worthless.

Foxy makes a good point; //This may include connections to place, country, language, groups, family relationships, cultural beliefs, value systems and Indigenous ways of knowing and being.

Far too abstract for you guys, there are no dollars in it, so that puts the kibosh on that hairy fairy nonsense as far as you are concerned.

ALTRAV, I have done a bit of internet checking on universities, and Australian institutions compare more than favourably with those found in similar countries. I exclude both Britain and the United States, as the former has the English speaking worlds longest tradition of excellence in tertiary education, as demonstrated by the high regard both Oxford and Cambridge universities are held in. The US has a shorter tradition of excellence, but money and numbers has push some of their better known institutions like Harvard and Yale to positions of the highest prominence. The Australian universities, ANL, Melbourne and Sydney are all high in the world rankings. Your assertion that Australian institutions are of the 'Mickey Mouse' type is unfounded and untrue. I put that one in the same basket as your disgruntled professors claim.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 1 December 2018 11:10:40 AM
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Paul, if there is one thing you lefties are good at, is denial.
Even though I don't normally bother with proving my sources, I gave you proof and yet you stubbornly continue to push your version of the truth.
I posted actual excerpts of just one one the uni world ratings on OLO, you must have been visiting la la land on that day, and if you pulled your head out of your la la long enough to have read it, you would be reminded of the saying, 'read em an weep'.
Stop this lefty nonsense, it is really annoying, put your pathetic collective pride back in the box and just deal with truth's for a change.
A true and whole, mature, reasonable person, admits when they are wrong, so it appears the loony left are otherwise, and if so because of this you cannot/must not be taken seriously.
Just the fact that you have the inability to reason, in your make-up means you cannot be reasoned with.
That being the case, you pretty much have sealed your own fate by just 'being'
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 1 December 2018 11:34:03 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmm, this message is a little too harsh.
I'll add LOL at the end.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 December 2018 12:52:42 PM
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You've lost your marbles Joe. Don't have a clue.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 1 December 2018 2:23:53 PM
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Just to throw a spanner in the works, how much of the Govt funding for indigenous University attendance is syphoned off into bureaucrat Super funds ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 1 December 2018 5:57:55 PM
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