Can anyone with access to the stats tell me around what period was there a sharp rise in enrollments of so called abo uni students?
You see Paul has just vindicated me and my on-going exposing of the great 'abo lie'.
Instigated and promoted of course, by the great scum-bag ministers, all feeding off the funding intended for the 'real' abo's.
Just like Bropho said once in a radio interview, that he wanted 'all these wannabee abo's to stop trying to muscle in on the handouts and assistance intended for the 'real' and 'true' abo's'.
Paul's story finally puts paid to the great 'abo rip-off'.
I understand, if you guys accept the truth, (what I'm saying) you have to give up a lot of the perks you get by calling yourselves an abo.
I wonder how many of these uni abo's have pure blood abo parent's?
Yeah, exactly, that's what I thought.
So stop patting yourselves on the back, they can call themselves abo's as much as they like, they are guilty of theft and deception and mis-leading the system, because they are anything but abo's, just based on Paul's discussion with his son, as one such example.
There are so many bad things about this new abo attitude, for example what a disgraceful bunch of ingrates.
They pick out the one ancestor they can 'use up' for their own selfish and pathetic gain, at the expense of ALL the other ancestors that came before and after the abo ancestor.
So these, 'so called' abo's at uni, I say categorically, they are ALL just plain Aussie's with an abo ancestor somewhere in their past.
I will cede to any abo students who's parents are BOTH of original abo blood or lineage, without any foreigner in their family history.
So then, let's re-visit those uni attendance figures by abo's again, only this time, let's remove the one's who are not of pure blood.
Ah, that's more like it, as I said, nothing like the BS fantasy your all trying to oush, just to make you feel good.
LIARS!

So-called Alt Rav,

Across Australia, the figures for Indigenous enrolments from 1970, each five years, was something like:

1970. 100
1975. 200
1980. 400
1985. 800
1990. 2000

The rest you can look up yourself if you go to my web-site: www.firstsources.info and check out the Higher Education page. The data there goes only up to 2016, I can't make changes for some reason.

Anyway, this year, 2018, I expect that the figures are more like: 20,000.

Graduate numbers have risen from the first in the late forties (usually teachers and nurses) to maybe a hundred by 1970, to five hundred by 1980, to 3,300 by 1990, 13,400 by 2000 and 29400 by 2010. At the end of this year, graduate numbers should come close to sixty thousand. 60,000.

i.e. people with Indigenous ancestry. How much - I don't give a flying f.... toss. Shove your pig-ignorant racism up your arse, Alt Rave.

Joe

No Loudmouth shove it up yours, you arrogant ignorant pig.
You are part of the reason we have racism here today you small minded insignificant, little man.
Trying to boost figures by exaggerating is LYING.
You just shat on your own feet by telling that story about your son.
You bang on about crap just to try and boost the abo stance.
They don't need any more liars to help them, they're doing quite well by themselves.
Racism,HUH, you should be so lucky.
It's ALL these lies that have led to the abo being downgraded to the social levels they are today, and no end of BS by you or anyone else is going to change that.
You want to know why I bag the sh!t out certain people or groups, like pollies etc, it's because they tell lie's.
I don't give flying fig if a wog a skip or a pom go to uni or not, but I do care if what they say is BS.
Then I will attack them in any way I can to bring them back to there rightful place.
So smart-arse, unless you can prove that ALL these wonders of academia, suddenly got up one morning with the IQ of a doctor and are ALL pure bloods, (not half, quarter or 1/64th breeds) they are Aussies with a piss-ant amount of abo in them.
They're not abo's, so stop lying and trying desperately to make these people out to be what turns YOU on to help YOU with YOUR agenda.
So we have more Aussies with a drop of abo blood going to uni, so what?
You wouldn't want to consider that it just might be the 63/64th's that might be the reason they're at uni in the first place?
No, I didn't think so.
Get it through your thick skull the stats were very clear from 100 years or more ago.
The odd full blood made it to uni, with the help and encouragement of the white folk because they wanted to see them work towards a better and self sufficient life.

Joe, I have to side with you on this one, 'cause my son wants to be a "tosser" proves nothing, and I think he is only half serious anyway.

I don't know a lot about the "benefits" of being Aboriginal and what doors it might open in regards to education, and therefore future job opportunities. I can only speak about my own family which as you know is Maori, and how they have got along with the benefits of education. Is it the same, as one niece said to me; "Uncle, when us Maori kids leave school, the girls go to collage, and the boys go to jail." Are the Aboriginal girls doing better than the boys, like Maori kids are?
My (step)daughter said recently, where ever the indigenous people are in the minority throughout the world, Aboriginal, Maori, Native Americans etc, they are always the poorest educated in society, with the highest unemployment, lowest incomes, worse housing, high crime rates, etc etc, and that is true.

Just on my (step)daughter, she was very good at school, top of the class it seems. Mum (my wife now) and Dad (deceased) worked bloody hard to put her through school and later collage, went without a lot, and got little help from the NZ government, never looked for help in doing so. Now nearly 40 (next year big party, one daughter 40, one son 50 and wife 70 all at the same time of year, yep triple party) daughter has a very good job as a Logistics Manager in Brisbane, she is doing some course at the moment to go higher, even though she has two school aged kids, husband and a house to manage, with a full time job. Although she is lucky, she works one or two days a week from home, most weeks.

And the thing that is so hard to fathom, is with this better education, jobs, and higher incomes, Indigenous people become so "normal", just like the rest of us. I can't understand it, LOL.

Hi Paul,

Yes, two-thirds of Indigenous students, year after year, are female. They may get pregnant, they may have to stay home and look after the younger kids, they may have to cop other disadvantages, but still they out-number the blokes two to one.

Perhaps one reason is the gender-stereotyping of uni courses: teaching and nursing and social work are looked on as female, science and management courses are look on as male BUT you need solid secondary schooling in Phys, Chem, Maths and maybe Biology to get into those courses, and Indigenous students don't seem to be taking those secondary school options. So the boys cut themselves out of uni.

One of my brothers married a Ngapuhi (Nahi) from out west of Whangarei and he has two wonderful daughters, both very strongly Maori, trying to make sure their kids speak Maori as well as English. But I notice that the kids speak English amongst themselves. After all, it's all around them. So, even with hundreds of thousands of speakers of Maori, proponents have a never-ending job maintaining the language. So far more so over here, with hundreds of languages, each with maybe only a few hundred speakers of the basic 'kitchen' language, and very few attempts to 'Indigenise' the very words, the English words, that everybody uses every day. Different folks, different strokes.

Anyway, I suspect that Indigenous female graduates will keep dominating, keep marrying non-Indigenous partners and raising their kids as Indigenous - after all, we take our identity more from our mothers than from our fathers. Whether people are pale or dark, whether they have some small or large fraction of Indigenous DNA, that's how they see themselves honestly and (more or less) only. Racists find that impossible to understand, with their psychotic obsession with fractions, as if people dance solely to their DNA, regardless of who or what their mother is.

Cheers,

Joe

Paul, still crapping on I see.
Your son is not a loser, he is in fact quite smart by the sounds of it.
Unlike your lying about not knowing about the benefits of being an abo, your son is quite smart, because he has been making enquiries, possibly through his mates.
And good on him.
If there are benefits going and he qualifies, there's nothing wrong with that.
Thankfully he is still young enough and hopefully innocent enough to have not yet adopted the 'greed and averace' disease of your elk.
I truly hope he remains an innocent and wonderful child as they all are at young age.
As for you and your mates, too late, you've gone over to the DARK side, (ha ha get it?).
The force is strong in you Paul.
If you wanna' call yourself tree stump or white cloud, I have no problem with that.
They are 'names' and do not relate to your race or creed.
But when you call yourself a certain race because 'you say so', you can bet I and MILLIONS of other thinking mature adults are going to scoff and shake their heads in rejection.
You can fool the fools.
I'll say it again, as it seems you lefties are a bit thick.
IF YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER ARE PURE BLOOD, YOU'RE A PURE BLOOD and therefore an abo.
If they're not then you're not and you're a bitsa or more precisely an Australian, with mixed heritage, one of the many others, one of which was aboriginal!
Your arguments are just the same as a child chucking a tantrum over a chocolate or something.
'No I want to be an abo, and that's that, I don't care about logic, reason , science, genetics, DNA, I want to be what I want to be and everyone else can get stuffed'.
And you call me a racist you arrogant, moronic prick.
Shame on you, by pushing your breed of racism you completely sideline and sh!t all over YOUR ancestors who formed the lineage that you are the current result of.