According to news.com, Peter Dutton has told parliament that illegal immigrants who were on Nauru and granted asylum in the U.S have advised their friends still on Nauru that they would be better off going to New Zealand or Australia where they have good welfare systems. In America they are expected to find work!

Just think how much better our economy would be if we allowed them to work rather than spending vast sums to keep them locked up in inhumane conditions.

I'm sure that our farmers would be happy to employ them.
They may make big contributions to our rural outlying areas and
towns.

The irony of it.

Aidan & Foxy, that is the whole point, they don't want to go anywhere where they will have to work for a living.

Hasbeen,

How do we know that until we try it?

Also I believe that in Shepparton - it is a
success story. They've taken in quite a few
refugees - and all of them are working and
contributing to the community. Then there was
that town up North - where the entire town went
to Canberra for a refugee family to try to persuade
Mr Dutton to allow the family to stay in the town.
It was on the news.

Yes. Their keen interest in the welfare system shows that they are not interested in working. Our dole, plus all the perks makes life much better than they ever had where they came from.

Hasbeen,
>that is the whole point, they don't want to go anywhere where they will have to work for a living.

If the Murdoch Press to be correct about this, that would be Peter Dutton's point.
However that doesn't mean Peter Dutton is correct. And I think it quite likely that next week Peter Dutton will be accused of misleading parliament.

Yep the destruction of borders by country shoppers is an obvious tactic of those hating law and order. Many of them seem to be pawns in a cruel game with the likes of Soros funding illegal caravans.

runner,
It may surprise you to earn that crossing borders does not destroy them.

ttbn Where is this so called story I have used most of the words from your post and found nothing resembling what you say?

Found this article in search results but nothing even remotely news as you posted.

Even this "Peter Dutton has told parliament that illegal immigrants who were on Nauru and granted asylum" on search in news.com own website has NO results.

Philip S,
He apparently made the claim on Thursday - see
http://www.9news.com.au/2018/10/25/15/12/resettled-refugees-whinge-about-us-dutton

Aidan Thanks for that. Maybe now someone will make the economic invaders here do the same WORK I think that will stop more boats.

stop more boats.
Philip S,
Yes & no, on one hand the australian gene pool urgently requires a decent flush but on the other hand it's pointless if the new genes are even more inferior.

fake news still has value in the feeble minded most refugee/migrant want jobs and we should see they get it

this is a little spoopy

Stop more boats? There are no more boats. They were stopped long ago. They will only reappear when Labor gets back in, which unfortunately, seems to be inevitable, given the disarray and incompetence of the Liberals who have moved so far to the left that they probably can't be trusted any more to keep illegals away either. Getting rid of the Leftist Turnbull was only the start; and the mechanical bear, Morrison has already proved the he is not much chop. It's a crying shame that the Westminster system prevents us from voting for a decent leader. Trump, for instance, is able to lead and make tough decisions despite the Republican party, not because of it.

ttbn Quote "There are no more boats. They were stopped long ago."

Just goes to show how naive people can be there was a MSM report a few days ago that around 30 boats had been turned back over the past few years it was just that the events were not reported as they occurred.

To me they should have been reported as they happened otherwise like what is happening more people are saying they should be removed from PNG and Nauru to Australia they say that I believe because they think they have stopped.

But on the other side to report them as they come would bring out the advocates and grubby lawyers

Philip,

Such rumours pop up occassionaly. I can't say whether or not the one you saw is true or not, but do you trust everything you see in the MSM, which has a poor record when it comes to truth? I don't. But I am glad that they never made it here if the story is true. Border protection must still be working. I agree that it would be nice to get the news from the government. You would think that they would want to brag about bit. It's hard to know who we can rely on for the truth these days.

ttbn it was true it was from Government OSB figures it was around 3200 people on 30 boats.

The figures more than likely put out to remind people of what might happen if Shorten gets in.

But the gist of the article was slanted to show that contrary to popular belief the boats did not stop what was stopped was the daily reporting of them.

Here is part of it rest you have to pay to get.

"OPERATION Sovereign Borders has stopped more than 3300 asylum seekers reaching Australia by turning back 33 boats and thwarting almost 80 people-smuggling journeys in just five years."

Philip S.,

I don't know if this helps but here's more information
on this complex subject:

http://www.michaelwest.com.au/turnbull-to-trump-weve-stopped-the-boats-another-lie-says-john-menadue/

You might well be right Philip. The political class treats us like mushrooms. I don't think that we can ever know what is truly happening. We are very fortunate not to have land borders.

It might just be that the 'thinking' public might see some of the home grown Nauru locals more eligible for refugee status in Australia than those illegal ones encouraged by the Marxist and naïve.

What the hell are we doing bringing gate crashing boat people to Oz for medical treatment. These are criminals, who tried to break our laws, & are the least deserving of help from our medical system.

If the medical system of Nauru is less than desirable, we should be bring the people of Nauru here for treatment & leaving the illegals to rot. They do not deserve our help in any way.

Australia can't bring the children here because their parents have been found to have Terrorist Ties or are not genuine Refugees. That's why the children can't come & so it should be.

Why import trouble. There are enough Terrorists residing in Australia now, having returned from the ME.

What really gets to me is, they were granted Refugee status because they would be in danger of they were sent back to whence they came. As soon as they get their Citizenship they race off to where they were going to be in danger to get the rest of their family out here or to fight & be one of the people that refugees are escaping from. Strange that.

If Australia took in the refugees on Nauru, would they be part of the annual refugee quota ? Would that mean that some poor buggers who have been waiting in some shirt-hole in the Kenyan desert for ten or fifteen years have their applications put back ?

The refugees on Nauru shouldn't be penalised any further: they should be repatriated - with their full costs reimbursed - back to Indonesia, given the standard application forms and encouraged to apply, with no penalty for trying it on illegally. In other words, they join the queue.

Oh, there's no queue ? Sixty eight million refugees around the world - how many do you think have applied to come to Australia - only fourteen thousand each year, so there's no queue ? Or a million, each patiently waiting their turn ? Even if it takes seventy years ?

By all means, push up the annual quota, say to twenty thousand. At that rate, some people might be waiting out in the desert for only fifty years.

An aside: I was once on a very crowded suburban bus next to an African woman: I suggested that if the driver took any more on-board, we would have to get married. She laughed and laughed, and later told me that she had been in a refugee camp in Guinea for eighteen years before she could bring her family to Australia.

Joe

“What the hell are we doing bringing gate crashing boat people to Oz for medical treatment?”.

Next question: is there something in it for the political class? Is corruption involved?

Yesterday, the leader of the Nationals and Deputy Prime Minister was heard hotly denying the need for a national enquiry into corruption. We all no what was found after the government denied that there was a need for a RC into banks.

When politicians deny the need for anything these days, we have to conclude that there bloody well is a need.

Very good point about about the Nauru health system being good enough for the locals, but not the illegals, hasbeen.

I'm wondering how much longer the 'no person arriving by boat will ever be settled in Australia’ pledge will last, given the left-lurch of the Liberal party.

Angela Merkel will be stepping down as Chancellor in December. It seems that her catastrophic decision to allow all those illegals to pollute Germany has caught up with her. She, of course, blames an extreme right wing that only her sort knows about. If there is a Hell, Merkel certainly deserves to burn in it.

Something to think about - perhaps the lunatic Left grip is slackening when the leading villian enabling mass illegal immigration throws in the towel.

do we bring every Indonesian, PNG, Nauru resident to Australia for hospital? Why not? Are they not just as entitled as country shoppers?

Indonesia. Apparently we are now supposed to check any of our foreign policy decisions with them. They object to Morrison considering shifting our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem. Liar and hypocrite, Turnbull, who was never going comment on politics again, also thinks that.

a leopard does not change his spots ttbn.

Asylum seekers do not take Australian jobs, as 87% of them 5 years after arriving are still on welfare.

Josephus That statistic is very old, the Government would too sh** scared to release the current stats.

Do any of you have even the slightest idea how difficult & stressful it is for a legal migrant who wants to work & pull their weight to move here ?

Looks like someone is a liar. Either the Government or refugee advocates are not telling the truth.

Hundreds of refugees have been quietly resettled in Australia including 132 in just the last two weeks, according to a refugee advocates.

The unnamed group told 7 News that 700 refugees had been relocated to Australia.

It comes as Labor increases its calls for all children on Nauru to be removed.

Recently, the Refugee Council of Australia (RCOA) put pressure on the government to stop 'playing politics with children's lives' and to bring the children on Nauru and their families into Australia.

RCOA spokesman Kelly Nicholls said the organisation is relieved that politicians on all sides have recognised the remaining children need to get off Nauru.

'Doctors have repeatedly said that the situation for children on Nauru is critical. This is a humanitarian emergency and children's lives must not be left in limbo whilst political bargaining continues in Canberra,' Ms Nicholls said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6331455/Almost-700-refugees-quietly-brought-Australia.html

In that case individual we should not be allowing any migrant into the country.

It is too difficult for them to pull their weight a we not only cant afford to support them, & are sick & tired of the ridiculous cost we bear to do so.

nauru-news.com/statement-government-nauru-re-reports-refugee-asylum-seeker-children-medical-transfers/?fbclid=IwAR1m8IgUtMLoDDl9ZBdHfX2n0HVg04c_zVYGpUfV_LrAIGi4f6rOX_kGEKU

Parents of children on Nauru are causing harm to their children so the Australian Government will take them for treatment. The children are harmed but not by the conditions but by their parents.

It is too difficult for them to pull their weight a we not only cant afford to support them, & are sick & tired of the ridiculous cost we bear to do so.
Hasbeen,
I don't think you understood what I meant. Good, decent people who want to come here & are prepared to pull their weight are having so many difficult hurdles put up by the Govt agencies that migrating becomes unaffordable yet billions are being thrown at those who will be Welfare dependent for live.
The good people are being discouraged.