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The Greens call on Coalition and Labor to back bill to abolish religious schools firing gay students

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Yuyutsu,

Sweeping generations are not very productive.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 October 2018 6:06:09 PM
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Dear Foxy,

Did you mean generations upon generations of sweepers?

For granddad to be a sweeper as well his son and grandson, they must have been productive, how else? I also think that during their lifetime they must have moved tons upon tons of dust and leaves...

Yes, there are some who are genuinely obsessed with prohibiting others to discriminate, but I don't believe this to be the majority of those who push for anti-discrimination laws (without exemptions). The majority, I believe, do so because they find an opportunity to hurt religious people. Had religion not been involved, they would have become bored and had a beer instead or watched the footy.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 19 October 2018 6:35:43 PM
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Yuyutsu,

Apologies for my typo. I meant to
say - "sweeping generalisations are not very productive."

Although it could involve several generations as you
pointed out, - especially
of conservative, religious people (they need not necessarily be
sweepers), because
prejudiced thought always involves the use of a stereotype
- a rigid mental image that summarizes whatever is
believed to be typical about a group. In this case the focus
is on - gays.

These people tend to think in terms of general categories, if
only to enable these people to make sense of the world
by simplifying its complexity.

These people have a psychological make-up that is - a
distinctive set of traits, including conformity,
intolerance, and insecurity,( that seem typical of many
prejudiced people).

These people see the world in very rigid and stereotyped terms.
They are disturbed by any ambiguity in sexual or religious
matters.

And as they did during the same-sex marriage debate - these
same people are now trying to say that their religious freedoms
need protecting. Even though their freedoms are not currently
under threat.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 October 2018 7:05:51 PM
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//Yes, there are some who are genuinely obsessed with prohibiting others to discriminate, but I don't believe this to be the majority of those who push for anti-discrimination laws (without exemptions). The majority, I believe, do so because they find an opportunity to hurt religious people.//

Well, except for all the ones that are religious themselves. Now, which ones are they again?

Oh yes, that's right, according to you it's all of them:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8481#267629
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 20 October 2018 4:39:01 AM
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Paul,

The example I gave was of a meat processing plant in which a wheelchair could never be used and meet the hygiene requirements. So $10 000s are spent on a facility that can never be used.

SR,

The private schools are also not beset by the idiotic identity politics that many of the public schools are. If this is the only thing the religious protection laws achieve then they are worth it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 20 October 2018 11:42:23 AM
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It's rather disturbing when people use "identity
politics" (and political correctness) as terms of
abuse.

The people doing the attacking usually feel they are
somehow beyond identity, they define themselves as the
majority or the norm.

As if their identity is beyond question.

As we know from the Murdoch Press attacks always assume the
norm is - white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, heterosexual.

Yeah, right - private schools are not beset with these
kind of problems. They know who they are.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 October 2018 1:10:50 PM
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