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Enjoying Trump's presidency.

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runner you continue to add to the entertainment, and confirm some at least of Trumps supporters know not much at all.
When that car drove in to a crowd at a protest about the right wing rally, Trump named the kkk types as good people.
He, in pursuit of the NRA vote only condemns mass murder if it is at the hands of other than WASP,s
Measure him against the opinions of growing numbers of concerned world leaders if you dare
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 13 October 2018 5:39:19 AM
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Well the progressives obviously consider Trump a threat to their agenda. I don't follow this issue much but perhaps the issues surrounding this can be seen in the following way.

1. QAnon is not evidence - it's a smoking gun. It could be used to find evidence. Socialists have their own ridiculous claims.

2. Roseanne Barr- She's a comedian and an actress. Most humor can be taken as offensive to someone. Actors are not lawyers or scientists. Given the toxic environment I admire her courage- but I wouldn't have used the words she used. Perhaps one of the reasons for the cancelling of the show is because of ambivalence within the cast about their association with the comments about Valerie Jarrett.

This link is interesting- perhaps another smoking gun...
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/communism-in-jarretts-family/

"JW has exposed Valerie Jarrett’s ... role in covering up a scandalous gun-running operation carried out by the Department of Justice (DOJ). Last fall JW obtained public records that show Jarrett was a key player in the effort to cover up that Attorney General Eric Holder lied to Congress about the Fast and Furious, a disastrous experiment in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (ATF) allowed guns from the U.S. to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels. Instead, federal law enforcement officers lost track of hundreds of weapons which have been used in an unknown number of crimes, including the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona".

This is also interesting...
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-media-rally-behind-rosanne-barr-and-her-racist-tweet/

Perhaps this is what Belly was referring to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

I guess the more that the progressives push their agenda the more the masses are pushed towards the organizations referred to in the Unite the Right Rally. This is what is happening in Europe. It comes down to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". So be it.

In war the first casualty is truth.

Paraphrasing Musashi- War is an extreme act you can't do it by halves.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 13 October 2018 11:42:32 AM
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Trump is only there because of his usefulness to his extreme right evangelical power base.

They are prepared to vote for a lying, adulterous, corrupt, pussy-grabbing mysogynist, egotistical man-baby soley in the hope he will overturn Roe Vs Wade legislation through the Supreme Court. Everything else is just window-dressing.

Meanwhile his "huge brain" and lying double-speak comments and insane tweets have made the USA the laughing stock of the world and his looming trade war will ultimately damage his own voters.

Am I enjoying it?
When I watch the hypocritical ranting of his tinfoil hat brigade fans, I think it's hilarious.
Posted by rache, Saturday, 13 October 2018 12:52:07 PM
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CM just love it! so progress and Liberal are now filthy words.
Steelredux you got this thread right.
It just keeps on giving.
Gut busting laughter that is.
Soon, oh so very soon as it becomes clear Donald Duck, sorry devil made me do it, Trump is a one termer, those leaving his ship will try finding ways to? tell us they always knew he was a dill.
As any thought America is great sinks below the horizon we must loo to a new western world leader Germany?
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 13 October 2018 4:26:19 PM
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Belly said "CM just love it! so progress and Liberal are now filthy words."

Answer- The Progressives/ Libertarians have the same view / dialogue of the Conservatives. Change (Progressiveness) for its own sake is not healthy- Progressive is not a synonym for Good- nor is Freedom (Libertarianism/ Free Trade/ Free Society). They become filthy words when they are misused. Change and Freedom are relative concepts- the ones that are most able to take advantage are those with power. At this point in history we need to become more Conservative- and return power to the people. Where we are today is based on our heritage. We have lost balance- we have become less democratic- and less stable. There need to be more people pushing against change and freedom. There are few absolute good or evils.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 13 October 2018 4:50:04 PM
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Dear Canem Malum,

You say;

“Well the progressives obviously consider Trump a threat to their agenda.”

Australian progressives have been decrying the TPP for bloody years. It was a sweet day when Trump put an axe to the involvement of the US as they had demanded the inclusion of some pretty toxic power shifts from governments to corporations.

What has been delicious is seeing all those previous 'free marketeers' on this forum applauding his actions and suddenly spruiking protectionism.

Of course there has been a mad scramble to paint tariffs in nationalistic colours rather than the protectionism it really is.

It has been a scream.

There have been a number of things of Trump I have supported. I even thought there was a brief window for him to have acted on gun control but he wimped it. Perhaps a bridge too far even for him.

But there is so much which has been an absolute disaster and fine fodder to wake up to each morning. Meanwhile the right continue to dig in hard with their support of this man. Oh and it will not end well for them.

'May we live in interesting times' indeed.

I do concede that the damage he will inflict on the Republican party will be extensive and will not be good for democracy in the US.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 13 October 2018 5:22:15 PM
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