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Is an independent ABC is now dead?

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I strongly and with some hope, believe the current war on the ABC is a product of a Trump admiring right of reality minority of Australians.
That group, powered by its inventions,fake news and fake charges has a few hurdles in its path.
Trump will suffer a very real setback in the mid terms, as a result the Republican party will begin a fight,, it will not be a short one, to see the middle take back their party.
Here too a right of reality has control, not total but control over the Liberal party it too will see a fight for control of that party.
The new tool used by the right, say anything some will believe it, has ignored even in their own ranks voters are far more conservative than extreme
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 30 September 2018 6:55:12 AM
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runner,
"the mainstream in America do injustice to every woman who has been sexually assaulted by promoting and encouraging Hilary vagina head supporters making up false lies in order to smear those they disagree with."
Isn't that exactly what you're doing? You have no evidence those women are lying, but you choose to assume they're the ones lying because you disagree with their politics but agree with the politics of the man they're accusing.

Likewise, you have no evidence that Clinton supporters and the mainstream media are encouraging anyone to make false accusations, but it suits your agenda to think they are, so you feel justified in falsely accusing them.

"The abc is no different."
Do you think they've encouraged anyone to falsely accuse anyone? Because that's a serious accusation and you don't seem to have any evidence at all.

Or do you mean the ABC is no different because you also have no qualms about falsely accusing them?

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Armchair,
"Conservative governments move towards the centre.
Leftist governments only move further to the left."
ITYF all governments, no matter where they are on the political and economic spectrum, try to move to their preferred position if they think they can. The obvious example is the Howard government implementing a rightwing agenda in their final term.

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Shadow,
The ABC has not campaigned against border protection. The evil policy of persecuting those who come here by boat is NOT border protection; refugees have NEVER threatened our borders.
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 30 September 2018 12:37:29 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote;

“Finally, an independent survey of voting intentions indicated an even split of voting intentions at Newscorp with a 90% odd labor/greens majority at the ABC.”

And,

“True that I should have checked the figures before posting, but the essence is still that the ratio of roughly 5:1 labor/green to Coalition supporters at the ABC is an overwhelming far left whinge bias no matter how desperately you try and weasel out of it.”

So wait a second. The so called bias is 5:1 at the ABC but still 3:1 at Newscorp yet you try and paint one as even handed and the other as extreme 'left whinge'?

You really are pretty shameless aren't you.

Go lick the wounds and try and do better next time.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 1 October 2018 5:02:13 PM
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SR the invention of the far right *tagging anything they dislike leftist* over looks the biggest current threat to humanity is a world war started by the extreme right powered by lies and hate equal to anything Hitler ever used
Posted by Belly, Monday, 1 October 2018 5:10:18 PM
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My concern is the high level of armchair critics that have come out in droves since the situation involving the ABC board, these people (journalists, the media, commentators, Politicians etc.) have been critical and shown no respect to the ABC board at all.

For example when the new board member was appointed, she was swamped for comments by the media.

The interview on the 7:30 report with the previous chair of the ABC board, was labelled in some sections of the media as essentially "ridiculous".

This is despite the fact the former chair has come out and said the emails (that were sent out) were taken out of context. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

The inquiry initiated by the Federal Government has faced criticism, as it is not "independent". These is no such thing as an independent inquiry as even with say a external investigation, no person can claim to be independent as (lets say a person comes as a consultant), they have political leanings of their own and future commercial clients to think about.

It will only take now, even something like an email from a current board member (lets say it was sent five years ago) re the ABC which may have an element of criticism to it, and that board member will be howled down by Unions, politicians, journalists and others to step down.

People do change their minds, grow and develop, but those in the media are there to make money, (including the ABC), so I can't see these people disappearing or wanting to stop find out more about the ABC.

Four Corners is no doubt looking into this issue as their own de-facto inquiry - of course at taxpayers expense.

I only hope some of these vile journalists and media critics are exposed by Media Watch!
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 1 October 2018 6:42:45 PM
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 Just a quick one on this 'independence' business. When the communications minister Mitch Fifield complained to the ABC about the use of the C word on the idiotic Tonightly show, this is the response he received:

“The material was reviewed by the program teams prior to broadcast and posting, ensuring both complied with the ABC’s editorial standards on harm and offence”.

Enough said?
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:36:28 PM
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