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Is an independent ABC is now dead?
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Posted by individual, Saturday, 29 September 2018 6:22:45 PM
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SR
Once again you post complete bollocks For your edification 1) Airlines are run by companies work it out. 2) That the majority of NewsCorp journalists advocated for SSM, but these papers also allowed minority opinions is a positive comparison against the group think of the ABC. 3) ABC bias link, so that you can eat crow: http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=5595 "A survey of over 600 Australian journalists, conducted by a senior academic from the University of the Sunshine Coast, Queensland, has cast a revealing light on the political beliefs of Australian journalists. It shows that over 40 per cent of ABC journalists support the Greens, over 30 per cent support Labor, and just 15 per cent support the Coalition. While political beliefs do not automatically result in biased reporting, the left-wing dominance suggests that the culture of the ABC is overwhelming to the left, so that many journalists are unaware that their views are far to the left of the mainstream, or believe that they are a vanguard who must “educate” the public towards their perceptions of reality." Belly, I was for years before the vote a vocal supporter of SSM, I was also not impressed with the games that Labor played that delayed it. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 29 September 2018 6:35:50 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
Your claim was; “Finally, an independent survey of voting intentions indicated an even split of voting intentions at Newscorp with a 90% odd labor/greens majority at the ABC.” Now you are saying; “It shows that over 40 per cent of ABC journalists support the Greens, over 30 per cent support Labor, and just 15 per cent support the Coalition.” 40 plus 30 equals 70 not 90. You are condemned even by your own hand. Why did you inflate the figure by nearly 30%? Time and time again you do this kind of stuff and it is completely unedifying. You really need to stop. As to the figures I said there would have been caveats and by god there were. Of the nearly 1000 journalists at the ABC only 34 were contacted, hardly a sample that would allow for statistically significant conclusions to be made. Indeed the authors said exactly that; “These differences, however, are not statistically significant”. Next you claimed; “an independent survey of voting intentions indicated an even split of voting intentions at Newscorp” No it didn't. This was the split; “46.5 per cent of the News Limited journalists would vote for Labor, 26.7 per cent for the Coalition, and only 19.8 per cent for the Greens.” http://eprints.qut.edu.au/68322/1/2013_-_Hanusch_-_AJR_-_Journalists_in_times_of_change.pdf So we are left with several possibilities. 1. You lied through your teeth. Not completely out of the picture since you were able to inflate 70% to 90% with your usual gay abandon. 2. You inflated half remembered figures because that is just the way you operate now. Probably the most likely. 3. You were too bloody lazy to check some assertion you read on some far right piece of rubbish site and just regurgitated it here. Which is it and how do you like your crow? Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 29 September 2018 7:27:01 PM
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Thanks for the article Armchair Critic- Very interesting. Especially the Greens vote in the ABC which was much higher than that for commercial stations. It was also interesting how SteeleRedux calculated his statistics- it would have been good if the Same Sex Marriage vote had been calculated in the same way as SteeleRedux. Belly also talked about "Extreme Right"- an Ad Hominem argument to demonize those that don't agree with Social Change- Conservatives. Sadly most Australians don't appear to understand the term "Extreme Right"
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 29 September 2018 8:05:48 PM
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I've been listening to Liz Coleman's TED 2009 talk on the Decline of Liberal Education- Also interesting.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 29 September 2018 8:09:37 PM
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SR,
You were trying to claim that the ABC reflected Australian views, my link showed clearly that you were wrong. I hope that crow tastes better than the BS you usually spout. True that I should have checked the figures before posting, but the essence is still that the ratio of roughly 5:1 labor/green to Coalition supporters at the ABC is an overwhelming far left whinge bias no matter how desperately you try and weasel out of it. Secondly when you wrote: "As to 90% of the Jounos at the ABC voting Greens what rot." Were you deliberately lying or did you just misquote me out of laziness? Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 30 September 2018 5:49:28 AM
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No rotting cadaver, no maggots.