well said mhaze. You only need to see massive amounts of Indigeneous kids today who are totally neglected, abused, ignored by parents as depicted by Bill Leak. It must be a horrible thing to face up to the fact that your father or mother love their booze and drugs so much that you become a nuiscance. It is certainly criminal to demonise the rest of society for their choices. As the natural family has been destroyed we see this trend taking place more and more in white families also.

"My correction of you - was that Manne's book did not contain
just his opinion . It included essays from many
historians. Which if you have his book you should
have known that."

Well that's just wonderful Foxy. Except nowhere did I say or even suggest that Manne's book contained only his opinion. So just making stuff up again while avoiding the facts.

Surely by now Foxy you'll have realised that when you simply make stuff up about me or my views that I will not supinely let you get away with it but will instead call you out on this behaviour.

You've previously told me that calling you out on this behaviour is ungentlemanly but so long as you continue to act in this manner, I'll continue to call you out on it.

mhaze,

Please take a look at your post to me at the
end of page nine and again at the link I
gave written by Prof. Manne earlier to which
you responded. I was not nor am I ever in the
habit of avoiding anything. I merely respond
to what I read. If I misunderstood what you
were posting - then I stand corrected. However,
you seem to take a great delight in trying to
prove me wrong, especially when my views don't
agree with yours. So all I can do is blow you
a great big raspberry Sir. And tell you to keep
up the good work. You're doing a great job.
There, even you have to admit - that's fair!

prove me wrong, especially when my views don't
agree with yours.
Foxy,
Are you sure about 'your views' ? I get the distinct feeling that almost everything you post is quoting some academic or provide links to some academic quotes.
It is very rare indeed to read posts by you that you're actually appear to be the author of.
In your words then what do you believe should be done to close that "Gap" ?

Indy,

I form my opinions after I get the facts
if possible. If the facts are not easily
available - I quote from reputable sources
especially in fields where I'm not an expert.
Then I try to present the facts and let people
form their own opinions.

You're welcome to do the same - or not.
Your choice. There's always going to be gaps.
It's a learning process. And I certainly don't
pretend to have all the answers.

And I certainly don't pretend to have all the answers.
Foxy,
i didn't really ask for an answer, just your opinion on what you think should be done to close that Gap that's always in the News. The supposed Gap between the indigenous & non-indigenous conditions.