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Refugees and the EU

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Belly, Who built the old Burma railway? Who built the Siberian railway in the last century? were they there willingly? Both prisoners were there to there to show dominance of another ideology.

Siberia 25,000,000 for re-education in the benefits of communism. No deity in Communism. Gulag Victims. An estimated 25 million people passed through the gulags in the later 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. When Stalin died in 1953 there were still 12 million prisoners in Soviet Labor camps. An estimated 12 to 20 million people died in gulags under Stalin's rule.

By the time the Burma railway was completed in October 1943, at least 2,815 Australians, over 11,000 other Allied prisoners, and perhaps 75,000 Romusha were dead.

All there people placed by their captors against their will, this is what a godless ideology does to others they want to control. The unelected EU masters and the UN Muslim masters want to control what citizens of countries under their administration. Hence Britex pulls out and America from funding UN terror cells. The religion causing the problems there is Islam who believe in dominating the world.

Either you give people freedom to live peacefully, or you control them. Demonstrate your position on how you would bring about PEACE. It appears you want to control people by overlording their freedoms.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 13 September 2018 4:08:25 AM
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Josephus,
Peace could be a step closer if education was run by decent bureaucrats put into place by decent politicians who in turn are voted in by decent voters, alas !
To get enough decent people the first step is a National Service. The second step is tax reform & the third step is Law reform.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 13 September 2018 6:55:31 AM
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Some comment,s are,well fair dinkum! you throw a bit in about a piece of vermin in Canada and his victim!
How many such crimes are committed in the world every day by not Muslims?
Josephus reaches deep down in his dark mind to throw Communism and Nazism center stage.
My last post asked are we representative of Australian thought, gee I hope not!
EU may only be leading well following actually, Australias foot steps, but much of the western world will follow.
Racism will get a run, but in truth we are seeing the first impacts of over population of this planet.
More, far more, refugees will be a product of this finding some place to go will be the hard part.
We all, constantly, see and hear, stupid people from within Islam who say just plain stupid things,like Coke makes Muslims impotent, next time you hear that type of stuff remember your posts here
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 13 September 2018 6:56:09 AM
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Belly, you still have not posted the answer to true peace for everyone!

You talk about imposing peace which every Dictator has tried!

It does not work as it violates the will of the opposition.

You might want a World where every one is in agreement and no will is violated. A true understanding of love and respect of difference for each other is the only answer. It is my experience that the influence of the New Testament has had that effect on Western society.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 13 September 2018 7:41:48 AM
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To Belly through the chair- I have to respect your position against multiculturalism, socialism. You seem to have indicated that multiculturalism is unsustainable and without a mandate. Your position on refugees is different though.

With the refugee issue there are a few choices...
a. Let them into other countries- this can erode their capacity to help over time- this is advocated by the UN due to circumstances after WWII.
b. Solve the security problem- the UN method seems to be ineffective.
c. Let them die- not really desirable but given the erosion of support capacity seems inevitable.

There seems to be a need to understand the underlying cause of the conflicts in each case rather than being reactionary. But sometimes you have to just react. Sometimes (perhaps often) the cause of the conflict is due to population pressures.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 13 September 2018 8:52:35 AM
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Everything has it's Pro's and Con's.
How many times must I say it?

When you promote migration from 3rd world countries, the first thing that happens, is that you take away the best and brightest that country had to offer itself.

You think the best and brightest are the last to leave?
They are the first to leave, and move on to greener pastures.

So the nation is left to itself with only the poor, the uneducated and the destitute, whilst falling prey to wealthy foreigners.

Immigration keeps these nations poor by taking their best and brightest away to foreign shores.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 13 September 2018 9:24:40 AM
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