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Refugees and the EU

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Foxy you may well be the ideal voter for my party or any one, to hear.
My wants and wishes include for a man who like Whitlam, the very top, Hawk and yes Rudd, are true statesmen, maybe that leader will be a woman, right now she would nearly need to be as good as two of those greats, just to rise to the top in a country not yet ready to be honest about sexual biases.
we can not forever tread water in the mud like thing our parliament is, we must find true states people to bring us back to being a country that cares for every one.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:40:44 PM
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Dear Belly,

I'm still optimistic that there are good men and
women who work the machinery of our democratic
way of life. Who reflect public opinion and
at their best lead public opinion - and transmute
it into laws that shape our society and our country.
I was listening to Dr Kerryn Phelps the other
evening on TV - and wish her all the best in the
upcoming by-election for Wentworth.

I wish that Labor had a good well known candidate for
my electorate of Menzies here in Victoria. We have
Kevin Andrews - it's a safe Liberal seat. How I wish
that this man got kicked out well and truly. He's been
in this seat for over 26 years. Unfortunately,
the candidates that Labor puts up to run against him -
are unknowns - and therefore guarantee success for
Andrews every time. It's a shame.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 1:13:01 PM
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If Bill gets in at the next election it will mean more illegal entrants by boat or any other way, more welfare, more taxes upon the workers to pay for his promises. More sell off of Australian industry and land to overseas buyers, following in the footsteps of the great Whitlam team [not!].

There was only ever one great Labor PM and that was Ben Chifley. All the others ever cared for were the unemployed and unemployable. Watch what happens to illegal entrants after 2019.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 3:26:11 PM
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Josephus,

There were more illegal entrants under the Liberal
governments - arriving by plane (and still are)
and overstaying their visas.

Get real.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 3:36:45 PM
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cont'd ...

Also we've got a man as PM who in the past
campaigned to give banks a $17 billion tax cut,
who cut funding from schools, and millions from
local hospitals, who cut penalty rates and the
pension, advocated raising the pension age to 70
and voted against the Banks Royal Commission 26
times.

A man who's papered over bullying allegations
inside his own party - and much more.

And you're criticising Labor?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 3:49:40 PM
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Josephus let me tell you a few truths, while I am both PROGRESSIVE and Liberal in the American meaning of that word I and my party are not leftist.
Other than left of this far from Liberal government.
It is true Rudd/Gillard let good intentions kill good policy, and we know it.
The boats came as a result, and we know that.
We introduced offshore detention, in our last year in office.
We would never dare let them return, and you should know that.
WE DID offer a better way,the Malaysian solution,Conservatives rejected it.
It would have stopped the boats, stopped refugee flows thought out Asia,
Conservatives said it was too cruel, so they turned the detention centers in to concentration camps.
A Labor government should pursue it again, and let NZ take the detainees.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 5:55:56 PM
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