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Are we facing civil war?

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Oh my god, Foxy, can you not see your own contradiction.
It is your moralistic humanitarianism that is entangling Australia (And the West) in thousands of alien societies through immigration.

Any problems between those groups in Australia (and other Western countries) will be reported back to their original homelands, creating a virtually infinite number of international conflicts.

A group of Sudanese fight with Turks, a gang of Afghans rapes a Korean, a Fijian robs and murders a Vietnamese family, and suddenly you've created *international* animosities between peoples that NEVER even lived together before.
Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 2:06:48 PM
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Since we are into quoting others I'll put one up;

"That's all I can stands, cuz I can't stands n'more!"
Popeye the Sailorman

Now that's out of the way.

The majority of racists, prefer to think of themselves as something other than racists. There is an unabashed minority of raciest who do wear the title as a badge of honour. But due to the bad connotation the word engenders the majority prefer to be seen as anything but a racists.

To quote AC "You all assume I'm racist, but its not about race, its about merit. The facts speak for themselves." What facts?

An individual can have merit, or lack of, but an entire racial group cannot, as some will have merit, while others will certainly not. It is wrong to label all within a group one way or the other. In the case of Muslims its wrong to label the entire Muslim population as lacking merit (AC's word). A minority of Muslim's in Australia have demonstrated clearly that they are undesirables, and they should be dealt with accordingly, but the majority have not, so calls for some form of punitive action against all Muslims is totally unjustified. For want of a better word, racists!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 3:26:00 PM
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How does one become racist towards a belief system?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 3:52:35 PM
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If there is a civil war, I hope it doesn't last as long as this thread.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 4:23:05 PM
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Paul1405 said- "The majority of racists, prefer to think of themselves as something other than racists. There is an unabashed minority of raciest who do wear the title as a badge of honour. But due to the bad connotation the word engenders the majority prefer to be seen as anything but a racists."

Answer- Another "Reductio Ad Hitlerum" comment from Paul1405.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 4:35:30 PM
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Dear paul1405,

I have gone and had a look at the Green's policy on immigration.

It just doesn't cut it.

The impact on the environment, on towns and suburbs, on the social contract eg the willingness to contribute to social services, and on the hardening of attitudes to newcomers either don't rate a mention or not articulated beyond lip service. Our current immigration rate is a huge issue for Australians and the Greens' rather insipid set of motherhood policies doesn't address what is concerning so many of them at all.

What really pisses me off is that this is ground being ceded to the right and the far right every day and it certainly doesn't need to be. Just look at people on this very forum conflating refugees with standard immigrants. Somehow they are 'stealing our jobs' while at the same time 'sitting on the dole with no intention of ever working'.

They are blaming the wrong people. It is government lead by big business who are the drivers of immigration. I have absolutely no issue with someone wanting to migrate to this country, why wouldn't they. We are a safe, tolerant, culturally diverse nation with decent workplace laws and protections. To be attacking people because they are trying to make this place their home is just inane.

The Gina Rienharts, the Harvey Normans and many of the other big business concerns who see growth in turnover and profit through driving a 'big Australia' care little about things like the social contract, in fact they actively try and tear these things down, see Abbott and Medicare.

These are all big issues those in power don't want us discussing. In the end they will look at the gutter bickering, the race baiting, 'the shrill call to arms' and be thankful that the 'masses' haven't cottoned on to the real picture.

In the end Paul these are your lot. Kindly tell them to step up and acknowledge the concerns of so many Australians about our immigration levels before that opportunity is lost to the more reprehensible of our politic.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 6:18:28 PM
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