Dear Steele,

Thank You for your valid reasoning.

However take a look at some of the comments on this thread.
It appears that the bickering has already started. Fox example
Canem Malum's statement to Paul - "another reductio ad
Hitler..." Which in effect should have a comeback of -
"another reductio ad absurdium." But I'll leave it there.

I'm sure you get the picture.

//Our current immigration rate is a huge issue for Australians and the Greens' rather insipid set of motherhood policies doesn't address what is concerning so many of them at all.//
Steele I have to agree, I would like to see all policy articulated in a somewhat more rational and decisive manner. Unfortunately for those not in government its impossible and/or irresponsible to set such things as absolute numbers and targets.
Immigration/Refugee policy should not be read in isolation, policies are interrelated. Cannot have a Immigration/Refugee policy unless you also have related policies in areas of Population, Social Services, Employment, etc etc.

An observation, out of government the Coalition are bereft of policy. In government its a case of policy on the run, driven by polls and popularity. The big policy from Turnbull at the last election was another three word slogan "Jobs and Growth". The centre piece of economic strategy was the absolute necessity that $50 billion in tax cuts to big business. Failure to deliver would have diabolical consequences for the economy. Turnbull and Morrison were constantly pushing that line. Once they realized that policy was toxic with voters, they threw it out the window. Should we hold our breath waiting for the impending economic crash as a result of the jettisoning of that centre piece policy. Is the government totally irresponsible?

For all the well-meaning infidels, this one is straight from the horses's mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iblYsoDMtmk

In the end socialism will be more ethnocentric than anything else as cultures are homogenized in the "Socialist Multicultural Blender". I value different cultures including my own- I value the environment.

Please correct any misunderstanding of the development of political thought below...

In older times the wealthy controlled the land in a militaristic system of nobility (that controlled people/ Social and resources/ Economics) but the age of mass manufacturing brought in by Adam Smith and others arose a new class of landless wealth decoupling land from wealth.

The Industrialists required people to run the businesses- they left society alone so as not to disrupt the flow of money- so they tend to be Socially Agnostic and allow Socially Progressive forces.

The Conservatives having a longer history (pre-democracy/ pre-mass transport communications) in some ways are more embedded in the community believing in managing both Economic and Social aspects.

Since the industrial revolution "The Right" "Conservative" components of society has been made up of the "military industrial complex".

Perhaps the militarists have become the Conservatives (interested in people and money) and the Industrialists are the free traders (they don't care about society just money).

The Industrial revolution led to massive movements of people to cities for greater wages causing inflation. This impoverished the family farmers leading to communism.

In the current era there has been massive population increases in poor countries and massive wealth increases in rich countries. Massive movement of population from poor to rich countries have occurred.

Both the extreme left (Socially Progressive, Economically Progressive) and industrialists (Socially Progressive, Economically Conservative) are both Socially Progressive. This is why some brave commentators have said that the entire political system has moved socially to the progressive left.

This has resulted in a biased view of social policy as conservative social policy has largely been silenced

Individual,

Interesting video; as I've said before my wife hears some interesting conversations when we are in shopping centres in heavily Muslim populated areas, such as Bankstown; the wife is fluent in Arabic having spent some years in a Muslim country as a companion/nurse to the matriarch of a wealthy Muslim family.

Hi there TTBN...

Mate I've gotta agree with you - this topic is bigger than 'Ben Hur' - it came to a point I was becoming 'shell shocked' the discussion just went on and on 'n on?

And listening to STEELEREDUX blathering on for the hundredth time, exercising his massive ego - well talk of PTSD, it's infinitely worse I swear. Do you reckon it's true, our Steele can talk under dry concrete, or is it merely folklore? There's no doubt, the Muslims sure have themselves, a champion Advocate in the personage of STEELEREDUX?