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Posted by Josephus, Monday, 13 August 2018 7:46:08 PM
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Jacinda Allen's veneer thin excuse to shut down media that does not fawn at Labor's feet makes her actions closer to those of a tinpot dictator than the idiot that Sky news and 4 other news channels interviewed incl the ABC. I wonder if her shopping includes jackboots and goose-stepping lessons?
SR, I see that you have had to scour the past 2 years of incidents to find 2 examples of group violence by non-Sudanese youths compared the roughly double number of incidents this year in Melbourne alone by these gangs. As much as the left whinge are trying desperately to pretend that this problem doesn't exist, there is virtually no one in Melbourne that isn't aware of it. Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 August 2018 7:52:57 PM
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SteeleRedux You are scraping the bottom of the barrel and could only come up with 2 examples in 2 years.
Please tell me how you can compare 2 examples in 2 years to almost a weekly event by the Sudanese and Africans in Victoria? You have epic ally failed this one. Posted by Philip S, Monday, 13 August 2018 8:01:54 PM
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STEELEREDUX you said a relative of yours made a derisive remark about me, did he? I gather he's with the Feds as well? And he would know of me, how?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 13 August 2018 8:56:34 PM
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Dear o sung wu,
No it wasn't directed specifically at you otherwise I would have made that clear. It was a general comment about attitudes of older coppers especially toward younger people who end up succeeding in the job. However he was certainly within his rights to have been more direct. You were attacking an officer he served under and who had gained his respect just on the strength of your long ago reminiscing about Ashton whom you met on a course when he was in his early 20s. You took apart everything Ashton has achieved since then and gave an opinion on why they mean little. To say he was put in charge of the Bali investigations because he was just a glorified translator not only disrespected him but also those who made the decision to send him as well as those who did a bloody good job under very difficult circumstances. You have then intimated that every accolade he has gained was not done though effort, skill and leadership but because the system stinks. Now my relative defended a bloke he has served with. Even if you think it was unwarranted at the very least it certainly shows Ashton has been able to secure the loyalty of those under his command. Not ever boss is able to do that. But you took it to a whole different level when you called him the worst ever and you certainly deserve to be challenged on it. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 13 August 2018 9:24:45 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
Of course a problem exists but it is being used as a political football with little regard for how the incidents compare to others done by those outside the Sudanese community. Why wasn't this home invasion a few weeks ago used to stir up a frenzy against 'anglos'? http://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/three-injured-eight-on-the-run-after-violent-home-invasion-in-melbourne-s-north-west-20180719-p4zsat.html Or this; http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/11/05/00/24/punches-thrown-as-wild-brawl-breaks-out-in-melbourne-s-cbd?ocid=social-9News Or this; http://www.kiis1011.com.au/newsroom/young-mother-horrifically-bashed-during-wild-brawl-at-a-bachelor-and-spinsters-ball Or this; http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-26/afl-western-district-investigating-mass-brawl-country-match/9698818 Or does a bit of a punch on at the footy or at a piss up not really count as violent behaviour anymore? Is that because it was done by our mob letting their hair down as opposed to their mob who are an existential threat to us all? Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 13 August 2018 9:50:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD-mfrxnr8w