Dear o sung wu,

Thanks for the reply, although with respect one might be forgiven for thinking you have skirted the points I had raised so forgive me for asking a question more directly.

Do you think male nurses were within their rights in calling for the more gender neutral term of charge nurse rather than sister in charge? Or as a traditionalist do you feel they should have just shut up and got on with it?

Dear George,

I'm glad that you found the link that I gave on
page 2 - entertaining. There's so much on the web
on this subject - and so much food for thought.

Dear O Sung Wu,

Thanks for this discussion - its opened up a whole
new way of looking at things for me.
Interesting subject. I never questioned our language
previously. Just took words for granted.

Hi There FOXY & STEELEREDUX...

I'm sorry to everyone I'm not at all travelling too well at the moment, just returned from the respiratory surgeon, and I've never smoked in my life!

Dear FOXY...

Many thanks for your support on this particularly Topic, I do appreciate very much, your enthusiasm for the subject, that apparently is going to effect us all, in times to come. Being the erudite lady you are FOXY, who better than you, to examine and make comments on this whole new language variation? Thank you very much indeed.

Hi there STEELE...

I'm sorry, I wasn't on top of my game yesterday.

Your illustration of the male nurse being called 'sister', I accept is absurd. Therefore I think our language should reflect that absurdity. Concerning police; there are many many issues coppers can jack-up about, and do.

As an illustration - When I was Supervisory Sergeant, for an area of Western Sydney, the Roster Clerk generally determines the various 'crews' of two x member's each. Mindful that two female members, should never be paired. The Sup. Sgt, is allotted a driver, and on this occasion it was a female member. A young lass who should've been a model, she was truely beautiful. However, the other female members didn't especially like her (jealousy?), therefore the rumours and stories about her, abounded.

The following night the shift, comprised the same crew's. The Sgt's driver were always rotated as well. For some reason this lass was 'not' rotated, and remained my driver, two nights in a row. STEELE, If you could possibly imagine the 'blue', the 'kafuffle' that occurred over this very minor rostering error! Police are very culturally orientated, and big on seniority, even though seniority, no longer formally exists. Allegations were lodged against me, interfering with the roster etc. I was over 50 yoa, and married. And though the allegation was baseless, as a supervisory sergeant, it didn't do my reputation much good, neverthelass especially with the younger, newer members just starting out? Thus my transference to Detectives, was a god-send I reckon?

Dear O Sung Wu,

I'm sorry that you're not feeling the best at the moment.
I've got some serious things to consider as well.

As you know - since my fall some time back - I've had
problems with my shoulder (amongst other things).
I totally shattered my humerus.

Anyway - because I lost
so much blood when they operated on my right leg (I
shattered my femur) they did not operate on my shoulder
and let it heal "naturally." I've been in pain ever since.
And I can't lift that arm beyond a certain height.

Now I'm told that they can operate on the shoulder - but
there are risks involved. I could have a stroke, blood clots
on the lungs, et cetera. I'm seeing the specialist in a
few weeks and I have to make a decision.

I'm scared of the
stroke business. And I don't know what to decide. Put up
with the pain - or have the op?

Anyway, sorry for boring you with this - but what would you
do? any advice? I would love for things to return to normal.
But I'm scared if I get worse than I am now.

Dear FOXY...

I understand fully what you're saying - and believe me, none of it is boring. The questions are; have the operation, with a possible risk of a stroke and other complications? Or preserver with the pain, which undoubtedly will worsen over time, and generally affect the quality of your life?

To my way of thinking - If the particular specialist you're seeing in a couple of weeks, is the one who's performing the surgery on your shoulder, and he's of the opinion, (i) your shoulder Op will be a success, expressed in terms of percentages. And (ii) the risks mentioned, by having this Op are (a)blood clots in your lungs; and/or (b) suffering a stroke; also expressing the possibility of either, in terms of percentages - 5% through to 15% as an example?

My understanding, if Doctor's can quickly inject reversal (Stroke) drugs, into your system, thus the effects of a Stroke can be almost eliminated. And you're already in hospital, so they can reverse a Stroke very quickly, because you're aready on site.

The blood clots in your lungs? I've not heard anything, remedial or otherwise about these Blood clots in the lungs? An issue you can discuss with the Specialist in a couple of weeks time.
Foxy.

Should you decide NOT to have the operation on your shoulder, presumably the pain will worsen and your lifestyle could deteriorate. My first wife Elizabeth (we'd divorced by then), had very very painful knees. We had a most cordial parting and remained good friends, speaking weekly on the 'phone. She used to appraise me of the treatment protocols she was having and it, consisted of Physio, and the more holistic remedies to try and fix them. Naturally, none of it seemed to work? I think provided your Doctors are confident of a good outcome, then perhaps, mayby you should be you too Foxy?

I'm sorry if it's somewhat 'garbled' FOXY - Please take care.

Foxy; it's now becoming more common and acceptable to use gender-neutral terms when writing and speaking
in English."

Only with those people who wish to be seen as “In” with the Leftist PC Crowd. Like those people who started saying “Impordent” instead of “Important.” What they didn’t realize was that the people that said “Impordent” had a tongue piercing & couldn’t get the “T” to sound right. 😉 Mostly “Girls.” Then it became fashionable for the people that act like those Caterpillars that follow one another around in single file smelling the one in fronts bum.

Flight Attendant or Flight Stewardess. Given that most male Flight Attendants are Gay then Stewardess would be more appropriate, don’t you think?😉

<"Forefathers," - "Ancestors,"> Hmmm… Do you think they’ll have to change the American Constitution?

Most of these terms are used depending on which context they are being used in. To suddenly be forced to change just to appease some Leftist PC Minority Fad is ridiculous.

I am offended by the forced change.

Now with the decree by the Minister for the Army. I am waiting for the entire Straight members to all front up at the same time & ask for a Discharge. Given what's happening in the Armed Forces now-a-days. Then the Armed Forces wild be left with the GLTBI members to carry on, so to speak.