ALTRAV,

The following link should clarify things for you:

http://theroarbots.com/2018/work-hard-and-be-about-something-kinky-boots/

Sorry Foxy, I found it a little too overplayed.
If we're talking about raising children, I vehemently oppose any form of 'grooming' which is very much the ideology of todays parents.
I firmly believe and practiced letting my children grow up with their own ideals and simply watched over them as a disciplinarian and corrected them when and where necessary.
Children do not have the ability to make a lot of decisions until they are adults and much more mature.
I cannot stand these parents who must involve themselves with their kids at every turn.
This is the problem with kids today.
In the fear that we will end up with kids that do not fit societies mold, they hover over them and in doing so are guilty of the worst sin today.
It is even illegal.
'Grooming'.
Yes, taken to it's most sinister and degenerate form we are grooming the masculinity out of boys in an attempt to turn them into these sick minded parents idea of a almost effeminate male.
Wrong!
Teach them morals and respect, but do not change who they are.
Just because you don't like what they happen to have become, too bad.
They are they're own person.
You must back off and let them be who they want to be.
If they don't turn out to be who you want them to be, be happy for them and move on.
If one or both my sons turned queer, I would not be happy, but that's their choice and if that's what they truly feel then so be it.
The same as if they turned out to be criminals.
They are still our children.
If it is something you cannot accept, whatever it is, you may have to distance yourself from them if it is that bad.
They will be whoever they grow up to be.
I have seen where the parents have, in my opinion, tried too hard to be 'good parents',only to have the child distance themselves as an adult.

ALTRAV,

Unfortunately you have missed the point entirely.
I guess you needed to have
seen the film.

To Altrav- Perhaps Foxy should read Ayn Rand.

Canem Malum, I agree.
I was thoroughly disgusted with the lefty loony 'deplorables', who had to come out and make such rubbish comments.
They have shown how Rand was in fact right by attempting to denigrate her and successful people and try to accuse the same people of the economic failures of the City of London and Wall st.
These same ignoramuses refuse to see the truth as it will make them look stupid if they acknowledge the true facts and not their version of the truth/facts.

Canem Malum,

Ayn Rand was intensely exciting to me when I was
a teenager looking for answers to life's big
questions. Today - I look elsewhere for intellectual
sustenance.