Hi Belly,

"...it was my intention to ask, even tell why that is so,harsh but true both majors if they took the policies of their small parties who once lived in their tent, would reduce their vote base by 5 to ten percent, such issues?"

This isn't a left / right paradigm issue, but a foreign elite interests vs Australian citizens interests issue.

Remember this:
If you change the base, you change the government.
Therefore if you want to change the nations government change its base; by demographics and with immigration.

LOOK HERE!!
http://youtu.be/364cxeR5EAg?t=10m20s

"Look closely at any party and tell me currently the main policy seems to be feeding division not popular wants and needs."

Accident or by design?
FYI, nothing in politics happens by accident.

Democracy is just a vehicle where generations of hard work nation building are eventually transferred to private interests for pennies on the dollar.
Its a scam.

ArmChair Critic, well let us first ask about voters, do we both think all of them put much thought in to why they vote and who for? do they understand, this time not all just those who vote for the minors, that it is very unlikely, unless that minor party has a seat in the house of blackmail, the senate, they can do anything? do those voters even know they in fact via the preferential system vote in the end for one of the big two? now about Democracy, with all its faults surely the only existing system that works? then as the majority, still, ends up ruling us is that not the best out come we can expect?in the end in our imperfect world we should not look for better than that

Hi Belly,
So what are you saying; that with democracy the majority don't even pay attention to politics and are easily manipulated by appealing to peoples emotions?

How can it be the best system if half the nation don't even understand how it works?

- But I know what you're trying to say.

"...now about Democracy, with all its faults surely the only existing system that works? then as the majority, still, ends up ruling us is that not the best out come we can expect?"

If the majority of voters are uninformed idiots then they will all drag us to hell, sounds more like the bottom line.

Does it really work;
How can one claim it works whilst acknowledging half the nation are clueless on how it works?
This seems illogical, does it not?

- Maybe it works FOR people in power BECAUSE half the nation are clueless?
Maybe it works BECAUSE people are stupid, not IN SPITE OF it?
- But I digress -

Yes democracy is the best system we have, (I ain't no commie either) but the point I was trying to emphasise is that people shouldn't overlook its flaws, because it is deeply flawed, and has the seeds of its own destruction built in.
It can be used against our interests just as much as it can be used in our interests.

Armchair Critic truth is the politics is boring mob are more interested in the iphone and bottled water, the they are all the same mob too,some think a house full of independents is good, while in truth it would become a place for deals and blackmail, we already have one of those we call it the senate,one vote one value is in my view the best way to vote but some will say it is undemocratic not to let the chooks loose in the top paddock/senate

We all have firm opinions about the subject of politics, we however seem lost or most of us do, as to why voters no longer trust the big two,we know, or should via the preference system their vote ends up with them still, so we could say a vote for smaller parties, unless in that dead letter office the senate, is a wasted vote, it will not however stall the drift from the big two,even one vote one value, surely the fairest way? is in the end forcing voters to? well think about it,voter disenchantment with our system and those who own it may one day lead to a Trump like victor only the big two by their actions and policies in the end can turn this around

Maybe we should have a better look at the issues forced upon us to divide us.

We have the issue of immigration.
Combined with the added input of identity politics were divided on race based issues.

Then take the issue of homosexuality.
Combined with the added input of 'safe schools' 'transgender toilets',