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The Romanovs

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Paul1405,

Seriously Paul, which part of "recognising that some will not fare well in that system, offers welfare to them" was too hard for you to understand?

So I'm not advocated open slather 'laissez faire' but a system tempered by the need to look after those who falter by not being able to partake in the economy.

I even describe the type of welfare I'dsupport, which somehow both you and Toni managed to (conveniently?) miss.

"taxation, a major component of government interference in the economy"
That's rubbish. Taxation isn't interference in the market (note I said market, not economy) except to the extent that it discriminates between businesses eg by having different rates for different sizes of business or different types of business. There's nothing, absolutely nothing I've said in this or any other
thread which would even hint that I'm opposed to company tax per se. Given that you have to go through this convoluted thinking to try to discredit my post, I'm taking that as an indication that the post was on the money.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 23 July 2018 6:35:26 PM
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More on the horrors unleashed on the Russian people by Lenin and co of which the death of the Romanovs was but an early example....

http://spinstrangenesscharm.wordpress.com/2018/07/22/the-kazakh-famine-of-the-1930s-another-harvest-of-sorrow/

The Kazakh Famine of the 1930s.

Interestingly the article mentions the fate of one of the Romanov assassins....also executed. Revolutions often eat their own.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 23 July 2018 6:51:44 PM
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//Interestingly the article mentions the fate of one of the Romanov assassins....also executed. Revolutions often eat their own.//

Did you end up watching Land of the Blind? I really like that film.

//The Kazakh Famine of the 1930s.//

Appalling.

Now, please to standings up for national anthem of Kazakhstan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIV-QdPEx-Q
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 23 July 2018 7:55:51 PM
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much better version here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePQ9_re7f1A
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 8:24:53 AM
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Take the story of the diamonds and stopping bullets with a grain of salt, diamonds may deflect bullets, but they don't stop them.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 1:17:22 PM
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If anyone is interested in the dark side of history,
I suggest a read of Robert Conquest's books - "The
Great Terror," and "A Harvest of Sorrow."

They are those definitive works which crystallize
pieces of history forever. As the blurb tells us in
"The Harvest of Sorrow," -

"Between 1929 and 1932 the Soviet Communist Party struck
a double blow at the peasantry of the USSR: dekulakization,
the dispossession and deportation of millions of peasant
families, and colectivization, the effective abolition of
private property in land and the concentration of the
remaining peasantry in "collective" farms under Party control.

This followed a "terror-famine", inflicted by the State on
the collectivised peasants of the Ukraine and certain other
regions by setting impossibly high grain quotas, removing
every other source of food, and preventing help from outside -
even from other areas of the USSR - from reaching the starving
millions. "

"The Harvest of Sorrow," is an ambitious yet always accessible
attempt to record for the general reader the full history of
possibly the worst human disaster in living memory.
It is a harrowing read - and makes one seriously question the
fact that while criminals like the Nazis have been pursued
all over the world for their crimes, the communist criminals
were allowed to go free.

They were, in effect, given tacit permission to continue the
operation of their concentration camps, to expand their
draconian systems to include psychiatric wards, thereby raising
torture, suppression, and murder to a science. The fact that
the process persisted was vividly disclosed to the free world
by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn in his book, "The Gulag Archipelago."

I wonder if Trump's ever read any of these books?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 6:15:46 PM
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