James, The facts are that income tax is a volentary obligation until such time as you apply for a Tax File Number.
My children have now learnt this fact and now they are learning how to evaluate this fact along with the implication of the various changes (legislative admendments) to the terms and conditions of the original agreement which is now 130,000 + pages. Its is obvious as a budding politician you were not prepared to entertain argument on these issues. Are you really competent to represent anybody in your electorate if you have difficulty definig policy in this area of stealing property (money belonging to others) so that the elected one can have the good life at the expense of the peasants ?

Young Dan,

I am prepared to have discussions about tax, so long as you recognise that I actually support the concept of a tax system.

It may not be perfect however it is a lot better than a system of voluntary payments, which would so skew our society it would take us back to near feudal times.

Our tax system ensures that we are able to pay for things like universal education, universal health care, a system of justice and so on. These things would not be available under a completely user pays system, instead we would be stuck with a situation worse than the American health system.

While you may have an issue with what politicians are payed (and I would prefer if politician wages were tied to either CPI or to be fairer, the rulings of the Fair Pay Authority (whatever its called now)). However I am not going to throw out the baby with the bath water.

freediver,

Sorry just noticed your post.

On the subject of taxes vs subsidies I would be happy to see a new thread started :)

Just a couple of points.

Firstly, I would hesitate to say that new taxes would have less of an impact on the economy than subsidies. It would however be in the opposite direction. While subsidies would see more money flow into the economy and possibly affect inflation and so on, taxes would take money out of the system and possibly lead to deflation.

Secondly what would the difference be between taxes on resources and increasing charges to access such resources? Would the taxes replace the current system of statutory bodies and charges or would they be developed in conjunction?

James, Its past the concept stage its implemented and your second statement shows that you have no understanding of your rights and obligations provided for by our Aust Constitution. It is my money my property and I don’t consent to giving it to anybody. That is the LAW or don’t you agree with the provisions of the Constitution or do you prefer being a slave or a ruling poly at the expense of the slaves.
Universal health care and education is funded by the GST given to the States and the legal systen is user pay or were you not aware of that. If you want to use it you pay for lodging and having the members of the legal profession providing the dispute resolution process in the same places as the statutory courts are conducted, and then you pay untill you have none left. That’s the legal system not the judicial system but as a budding poly why would I expect you to be aware of any of this.
Now I would not have any issue with you receiving a wage as a politician because I don’t believe that you could ever get there and if you did you would be taking money under false pretences like most of them who dodge the touchy issues. Ignorance is bliss.

Pale I had thought I would be best not to respond to your posts.
To leave you in that Wil Robinson lost in space of your own you live in.
Having studied your insulting responses to my posts ,very much including the one here, it becomes clear.
You are unable to see that while I am from the ALP I very often oppose my party's path.
My thread highlights just that, standing against the lunacy's of Mark Latham.
No you must not let your dislike of the incoming Labor government blind you to the failures of your side.
And remember it will be Australian voters in a majority who put us there.
While small party's, hey we agree FF is proof small party's ofter danger as well as good.
We are overlooking this thread talks about the senate not lower house would you pale still favor small party's if a union based one won say 5 seats in that house?
I want you to understand you I get huge fun out of your biased posts, And please continue it shows the direction less pain and anger of some government supporters policy's would be of far more use.

"Firstly, I would hesitate to say that new taxes would have less of an impact on the economy than subsidies. It would however be in the opposite direction.

No it wouldn't.

You can bring it up here:

http://ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1168051896