James

Dont worry about the others with their actions. What they do not get is that their are those of us who want to represent the people and have a go, instead of constant wingeing.

The problems we have are due to these parties and the mp's in parliament as they do not have what it takes to stand up and voice their concerns.

If they do this they will lose out in party ranking and/or be expelled.

Now all the polls are about 2 party prefered so when it comes down to it the independents or smaller parties are not taken into account.

So the people will have the final say, and when the truth is pushed and said well that will be cause for cellarbration.

The major parties do as they are told when in government running around to keep big business happy or the unions, but these parties have lost there way. For us the people it is their way or the highway and it is time that the people of Australia had a better say than just being dictated too.

Stuart Ulrich
Independent Candidate for Charlton

Tapp it may surprise you to know I do not condemn you for your views, and in fact we could be a better country if it was possible to have small party's in the house.
But it could be far worse.
A senate split and again controlled by smaller party's could strangle this country.
Strange as it sounds the Democrats once did a good job while they had the balance of power.
They also did a dreadful job! and insured the death of the very party.
We must not forget, each of us, that voters are mostly not ignorant, they put party's in power not some monster pushing them.
This year more than most small party's are not going to win.
Your chances Stu, no offense , of getting your money back are zero.
I propose we all consider how we can best impact policy's and my way is pick the party nearest to my wants and wishes and work from the inside not waste our time on dreams.

The best way we can make an impact on policy is not vote the majors.

Why is this so.

The majors have already decided policy at their meetings is this not correct belly, so when it comes down to it the people do not have a real choice.

These parties will do as they please.

Pollies in federal government are supposed to be independent from their parties but hey what do these parties care and why would they want to tell the people this.

That they actually know they are acting unconstitutionally, for what themselves and their parties.

Just as you belly are labor does not mean independents cannot make the right choice for the people, as it seems the majors have no idea.

So belly i would say i will get my money back.

whats the odds.

Stuart Ulrich

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Greg Combet

Stuart Ulrich
Independent Candidate for Charlton

James, the sustainability party is interested in endorsing independent candidates for the upcoming federal election. Let me know what you think:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/sustainability-party/sustainability-party.html

Australia is not a democracy. We haven’t even the right not to vote. And the preferential system means that no matter who you vote for it will end up in the box of one of the two major parties – so you are voting for them whether you want to or not. As for independents – most are religious nutters determined their supernatural superman will have a say through them.
And the senate? It’s supposed to act as a check on the House of Reps. But how can it do that if some Senators are holding ministerial office in the current government? Surely that is unconstitutional?
The only remotely democratic system is proportional representation. Seats are awarded according to how many votes the party or candidate get, thus, with 25% of the primary vote, the Greens should have a quarter of the seats instead of none. And the god party, Family First with about 1% of the primary vote should never be let near Canberra.
Australian governments of every ilk have become increasingly dictatorial and fascist, overriding the courts, changing laws to suit, ignoring the UN human rights declaration, removing rights, encouraging divisiveness, basing laws on ancient supernatural myths, imposing censorship… I can't find anything good to say about any of them.
There’s a new party, The Secular Party; www.secularparrty.org.au that at least will try to keep religion out of political decision making

freediver,

I've had a look through the page you linked to, and while there are some interesting ideas there, I'm not sure if I share your enthusiasm for taxes versus licenses.

I would also point out that while you advocate a carbon tax, its a little light on detail about the development of alternative technologies and energy production methods.

Rebates and subsidies have their place in encouraging people to adopt technologies and practices that they wouldn't normally adopt. Sometimes you get better results with a carrot than you do with a stick (which a tax is, no matter which way you look at it).

Personally I would advocate an increase in subsidies to programmes that encourage people to harvest their own resources in responsible ways, including water tanks, solar photo-voltaics and other renewable energy sources and so on. I would also support an increase in the price of water as well as the implementation of laws that ensure that the user pays, if only because this would encourage more people to both limit over use as well as investigate other ways that they can make savings.