Philip S,
Yes I'm sure. The fact that Fiat is a large Italian manufacturer that makes a lot of cars doesn't alter the fact that fiat money is the type of money most widely used today.

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Belly,
It's unlikely the banks will tighten credit to existing customers any time soon, but don't be surprised if they're lending less to new customers.

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ALTRAV,
AIUI yes, those scenarios arrested common practice. The way they do things here, there's less risk to the banks...

Aidan, Less risk to the banks?
Really?
Why would anyone give a shite about the whether a bank or banks collapse.
People don't realise it but the woes of the world are directly linked to and as a result of the banks.
More specifically, the Rothschilds.
They once threatened the US with starting and financing a war against them if they did not renew some age old lease about something to do with money.
They financed the poms and the French in the Napoleonic war with England.
They conned Britain into believing they had lost the war.
The markets crashed over night.
They swooped in bought 'England' for a penny in the pound.
Soon after the news came that England had won.
They sold back all the companies they had just bought for their real value.
They still run 'The City of London' (or England)today.
They are filth and through their brainchild, the Bilderberg Group, are working towards a 'new world order'.
Look it up.
Sounds fanciful, I know, but completely possible.
The first RC once said give him control of the countries money/finance and he did not care who the politicians were, or that was the theme anyway.
It seems to me the RC headed group have changed their mind about that one over the years as they have sponsored most POTUS since way back.

Aiden it was my point, banks are reducing credit to new borrowers, but are we standing on the beach waiting for a tsunami to arrive so we can say we saw it? the increasing understanding of debt, personal, not including our country's massive debt,surely warns us? a walk in the pages of our better financial news papers should be enough to concern any one knowing 18 percent are having trouble paying their credit card, and that some of them are even eating by using that debt, is confronting to me.

ALTRAV,
Firstly, apologies for the typo. It should have been "those scenarios are still common practice".

Secondly, a failing bank can't function properly, so it is sensible to try to minimise risk.

There's plenty of conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds. However the truth is quite different. For instance, they intended to finance a long military campaign against Napoleon, but when the British unexpectedly won early, they did buy up government bonds. Though they got the news first, they didn't con the British into believing they'd lost. But they did sink their money into British bonds as a medium term investment, on the correct assumption that peace would make fewer of them available, driving up prices.

The Bilderberg group was the brainchild of Józef Hieronim Retinger (NOT a Rothschild) - though as Bankers have always been involved, I expect there were always Rothschilds in attendance. The aim was originally closer transatlantc cooperation, and later promotion of free market capitalism -I suppose you could consider that a "new world order" as the phrase that so panics people like Runner is really broad enough to be meaningless.

There are still some Rothschilds in banking, but they certainly don't control everything.

The runners of this world seem to have fallen for a very real conspiracy, such as Trump, here Hanson, and other right of common sense people use as fuel, such people and in the end deliver only more pain to them

Aidan, I may not get the micro details right but over time I have forgotten the micro stuff and condensed it into a more precis or macro form, making it easier to remember.
For the most part that was also a waste of time.
The older I get the less the details.
And so it comes down to a sense or feeling of a particular situation or matter.
I may not be up with this vial families current abuses but I can say that their history has been one of the most egregiously, disgustingly greedy mind sets in the history of mankind.
They have been responsible for the death of millions of people over the life of this vial family of interbreeding vermin.
Knowing what I know about them I for one will never treat them with anything but the most disdain and contempt.
They have been responsible for wars, and many other atrocities.
You will not find an open book with direct quotes and accusations because they use their puppets to do their dirty work.
The jury came home a long time ago on 9/11.
Even the gassing of the Jews by Hitler, who some historians have traced him to be an illegitimate child of a RC.
The gassing was of the 'lower cast' Jews, in an attempt or opportunity to 'cleanse' and rid the Jews of the undesirables.
As I said, you won't find any first hand evidence of any malfeasance by this name anywhere these days.
You have to go back in time and try to garner books and info which was readily available back then.
People would be shocked if they were faced with the real truth about this scum family.
The worst being the original patriarch.
Such sway he held over govt's that he apparently stated once that they must never be audited, and that they must never marry outside their own family(interbreeding).
I would like to hear from others who have also discovered the dirt on this family.