Steele and Paul,

How about some evidence or, at the least, a reference or two?

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

Before I forget - When I mentioned 'this individual came from a well to do area' or similar language. I also added perhaps I shouldn't go there; *in asterisks*. My reasons were altogether quite different to what you thought I meant?

And as far as my bemoaning '...I don't know anymore...' Actually; what I meant to say, this topic arises every so often ad nauseam, and as usual the opposing parties square off against each other, and bring forth the same dreary arguments as they've done before.

My own position on guns is somewhat neutral. In the past I've enjoyed shooting paper & steel. My favourite rifle was a, SS, Ruger No 1 'Tropical' in .458W magnum (a big game rifle). Mostly I shot pistol, my service revolver. My point is STEELE, I could take shooting or leave it. I was neither mesmerised by firearms, nor fascinated by them. I look upon them as a necessary accoutrement that I was mandated to carry, and nothing more.

I will admit, after being sworn in as a probationary constable, upon returning home I eagerly showed the family my issue gun, after going through the exhaustive 'clearing drills' more for my benefit then theirs. And later that evening I'd shown my then girlfriend, thinking she'd be impressed or at the least, fascinated by it, but she promptly admonished me by saying "just put it away" and "it's not meant to be played with". Emmmm?

Furthermore, I consider firearms purely as an instrument of death. Nothing more, nor less. I can understand people's passion for the shooting sports, similarly I can appreciate the sentiments of those who totally oppose guns, in all it's forms.

The only comment I can make, apropos your assertion that the Clubs being de facto licensing authorities? Don't you believe it, they jealously guard their reputations, and procedures. And on the occasions I've attended a regular shoot as part of my 'unannounced' & mandated inspections; everything is always found to be in order, without exception.

Steele,

Thanks for that link to the SMH and the number of guns that some people hold.

"Mosman also falls in the top-100 largest private arsenals in NSW, with one person alone owning a staggering 278 guns."

Just guess why he has so many guns, well I'll save you the trouble of looking.
He's a noted antique gun collector and 99% of his guns do not have to be registered but his insurance company likes them to be registered even though it lowers the premium.

If he hadn't registered them, and remember he is not legally required to do so, then the number of guns owned would be about two.

The same goes for most, if not all, of the emotively labelled "arsenals"; the SMH is well aware of the facts, but why spoil a BS story?

Paul,

How are you going on your quest to prove that the US NRA gives funds to the SSAA?
Did you ever find out where the three members of Gun Control Australia get their money from?

Can't answer?

Ask your Green mates to invent something then.

How about some evidence or, at the least, a reference or two?

EVIDENCE! Jack, Jennifer, Rylan, Cynda, Taye, Kayden, Ayre and Katrina. REFERENCE OE TWO! Peter Miles and John Ewards

Will that do you Issy for evidence and references. I hope so!

Dear o sung wu,

You wrote;

“The only comment I can make, apropos your assertion that the Clubs being de facto licensing authorities? Don't you believe it, they jealously guard their reputations, and procedures. And on the occasions I've attended a regular shoot as part of my 'unannounced' & mandated inspections; everything is always found to be in order, without exception.”

Well mate there was an exception and that was St Mary’s Indoor Shooting Centre which is owned by the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia.

“The NSW Firearms Registry informed the Ku-Ring-Gai Pistols Club in January last year that under no circumstances should John Edwards, who shot dead his two children on Thursday night, be given access to a firearm, an official from the club has told Fairfax Media. Later Edwards was able to join the St Mary’s Indoor Shooting Centre, owned by the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia, the country’s largest and most powerful gun lobby. He then obtained a firearms licence and permit before legally buying his weapons.”
http://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/john-edwards-should-never-have-been-allowed-to-buy-a-gun-say-critics-20180707-p4zq4o.html

This is an organisation I believe Is Mise is a proud member of.

Do you believe they have any responsibility for what happened? If so what sanction if any should be put on the club and possibly its members for what has happened? Do you thing an audit of its current members is warranted given that it seems to be a club used as a last resort by those who have been rejected by other clubs?